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Old 05-10-2012, 10:05 AM   #501
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Look, I'm just saying that this will open a very large (and dangerous) Pandora's box. Mainly, other groups will come out and say "well, if the president endorses gay marriage then why shouldn't he endorse polygamy as well?"....etc....etc.
Polygamy is a choice. Wanting to marry your brother is a choice. Wanting to marry your pet goat is a choice.

Being gay is not.
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Look, I'm just saying that this will open a very large (and dangerous) Pandora's box. Mainly, other groups will come out and say "well, if the president endorses gay marriage then why shouldn't he endorse polygamy as well?"....etc....etc.
Fine with me. Personally, I don't want my country to be represented by those groups of people.
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Are you saying that gay marriage is as bad as slavery was? cos that wasn't what I said at all.....
Are you serious? How did you get that from what I said? I was just showing how flawed your line of reasoning was.

As far as the polygamy argument, that doesn't even warrant a response. You are smarter than that, much smarter.
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Look, I'm just saying that this will open a very large (and dangerous) Pandora's box. Mainly, other groups will come out and say "well, if the president endorses gay marriage then why shouldn't he endorse polygamy as well?"....etc....etc.


true, some fools and idiots will say that. they've already said that. and yet, somehow, we're no closer to legalizing polygamy than we were 20 years ago.

of course, 100 years ago, the Romneys were polygamists who had to flee to Mexico. so any idea that it's been "one man + one woman" for thousands of years is a lie.
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true, some fools and idiots will say that. they've already said that.
Seriously. I laughed pretty hard when AchtungBono revealed that to be the source of his fears. Dbs and his ilk have been regurgitating that argument for years right here on Interference.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:15 PM   #506
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If we let gays marry, then they'll just let men marry goats if they want to! This is unacceptable!

What if people can marry machines, even? This won't help us avoid the Singularity, that's for sure.

Who ever thought that same-sex civil rights would lead to half man-half Segways enslaving humanity?
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Look, I'm just saying that this will open a very large (and dangerous) Pandora's box. Mainly, other groups will come out and say "well, if the president endorses gay marriage then why shouldn't he endorse polygamy as well?"....etc....etc.
Maybe it does. And then so what? Why should we care that some idiots think that, when it's quite clear the majority doesn't? There will always be morons, you can't avoid them. So why should you want to cater THEIR wills and believes, when they're obviously heavily outdated and sometimes just plain wrong?


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No one has made a reasonable argument against gay marriage. Plenty of people have made reasonable arguments against polygamy. What about this is not getting through to you?
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Thank you President Obama for helping to make life for gays & lesbians that much easier and wonderful should they want to marry their same-sex partner!

Long live LOVE!
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What if people can marry machines, even? This won't help us avoid the Singularity, that's for sure.

Who ever thought that same-sex civil rights would lead to half man-half Segways enslaving humanity?
thanks for sharing that
I am really not that deep of a thinker

I may have to reevaluate my support on this issue.


when Jules Verne wrote his Man to the Moon and Leagues Under the Sea books 150 years ago, everyone laughed

but we have learned that Science Fiction can become Science Fact!
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well, this take a bit of the bloom off of the rose

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/us...&smid=tw-share
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The only thing he should apologize for is referencing Will & Grace in that interview.

Ah, US Vice Presidents. Keep on keepin' on with your wacky ways.
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V P should not be setting the agenda or controlling the massage.
Dick Cheney, anyone?
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Don't know how I missed this earlier, but "hello" to you too.
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When President Obama was born his parent's marriage was illegal in 22 states.

The world only spins forward.
When President Obama was born his father had a second wife in Kenya.

Big Love awaits its turn on the forward spinning world.
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What doesn't make sense is that it's not like SSM was legal or pending legality. It was never legal, it's legality isn't an issue.

This amendment absolutely proves one of the main contentions in the Prop 8 brief -- that those against SSM are motivated by animus towards a long despised minority.
This amendment absolutely proves that most states want the legality of gay marriage decided by "the people" and not by liberal judges or militant gay activists like Dan Savage.

DOMA closed the door on same-sex marriage progressing through the federal courts by the Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. Constitution. The fact that the Obama Administration favors the repeal of DOMA shows what a fraud President Obama is when he says he believes the states have the right to define marriage.
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This amendment absolutely proves that most states want the legality of gay marriage decided by "the people" and not by liberal judges or militant gay activists like Dan Savage.

DOMA closed the door on same-sex marriage progressing through the federal courts by the Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. Constitution. The fact that the Obama Administration favors the repeal of DOMA shows what a fraud President Obama is when he says he believes the states have the right to define marriage.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: all politicians are liars. Obama is not a special snowflake in this regard.
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When President Obama was born his father had a second wife in Kenya.

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What the fuck does polygamy have to do with gay people?

Stop blaming me for your bullshit.
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This amendment absolutely proves that most states want the legality of gay marriage decided by "the people" and not by liberal judges or militant gay activists like Dan Savage.

It proves that civil right should not be subject for a vote. Minority rights always lose.

No one voted on your marriage. No one voted on Obama's Parent's marriage. Don't vote on mine.

Lol at the Savage characterization.
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Stop blaming me for your bullshit.
Stop unfairly, and incorrectly, labeling all opposition to same-sex marriage as anti-gay.
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Why do Christians think they invented marriage? Is it the same reason they think they invented morality?
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