Same-Sex Marriage General Discussion Thread

[Jive Turkey]

Christ, what an asshole.

One little change in punctuation and this becomes a much different sentence.


Also, I was confused when I first came back to this thread after cori had edited

 

[corianderstem]

Damn my editing ways.

 

[Irvine511]

Gay sex is wrong because it's icky!

and the people most appalled and horrified by gay sex tend to be very, very well versed in the details, specific outre practices, gear, lube, positions, and other filthy, filthy, terrible things that happened when shirtless young men are overcome with burning lust for one another.

 

[deep]

But ..... but .... a lot of straights like the butt sex too! What about THEIR precious rights???

didn't you hear, they were all destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah

 

[Jive Turkey]

It's kinda like when people say something like "I hate American Idol... but I watch it all the time"... maybe you don't hate American Idol

 

[Galeongirl]

Or maybe you should stop watching it...

 

[anitram]

Gay sex is wrong because it's icky!

To be honest, people who come out and flat out say that bother me far less than the ones who hide behind their Church teachings and say that they are opposed because it's against their religion. At least the "icky" ones, as immature as they may be, are thinking for themselves.

 

[martha]

I was thinking. Didn't legalizing biracial marriage require a redefinition of "personhood"? Weren't black Americans 3/5 of a person at one point?

 

[Jive Turkey]

I'd love to know where they came up with 3/5

 

[maycocksean]

I was thinking. Didn't legalizing biracial marriage require a redefinition of "personhood"? Weren't black Americans 3/5 of a person at one point?

That 3/5 of a person was during the time of slavery, and my understanding is that it ended with the abolishing of slavery and the 14th amendment which gave African-Americans equal legal standing as citizens. The 3/5 Compromise was as much on the non-slave owning north as on the south. The northerners did not want slaves counted at all when it came to determining the number of representatives allotted to a state. The southerners wanted them to count as full persons to maximize the number of representatives they'd be able to have in Congress. None of it had squat to do with actual legal rights, just the states jockeying for political power.

At any rate, the legalization of biracial marriage probably did not involve a redefinition of personhood.

 

[BVS]

As the world spins forward there will always still be some brainwashing to undo:


[HD/Full]Child Sings Anti- Gay Song 'Ain't no homos gonna make it to heaven' In Church - YouTube

 

[Irvine511]

I watched that last night.

This is the same town where Billy Lucas killed himself after homophobic bullying and became the catalyst for the It Gets Better project.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

That's sick, and to me it's child abuse. What does that little boy know of any of that, of hate or prejudice ? He's parroting what adults have told him to say, and he's being indoctrinated. It reminds me of those white supremacist singing girls several years back. I think they might have rejected it when they got older, so maybe there's hope for that 4 year old.

 

[ShellBeThere]

Woohoo folks!
Did you see that the Defense of Marriage Act has been DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL
by a Federal Court in Boston!?!?!

One (more) step closer to ending the discrimination!

I didn't care that Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs (though doing so in the White House was ever so tacky, from young interns, sigh...), but I always felt so terrible that he allowed *this* (DOMA) to happen on his watch...

DOMA Ruled Unconstitutional By Federal Appeals Court

Cheers All!

 

[deep]

I didn't care that Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs (though doing so in the White House was ever so tacky, from young interns, sigh...), but I always felt so terrible that he allowed *this* (DOMA) to happen on his watch...

that is an uninformed opinion

Bill Clinton made huge contributions to advancing gay rights

 

[corianderstem]

As the world spins forward there will always still be some brainwashing to undo:

Ah, yes. Jesus' favorite hymn.

 

[ShellBeThere]

that is an uninformed opinion

Bill Clinton made huge contributions to advancing gay rights

Well, so, feel free to give me links showing me the evidence and everything, really, I'm open to it...
I just always hated it that he seemed to support that legislation, and I am not merely speaking in 'hindsight' from seeing a president (or presidential candidate who has a good chance of nomination really, for that matter) finally stop with the contortions in finding an acceptable "position" on the issue of same-sex marriage.
You know?!
I didn't say, please notice, that I'd always found Bill questionable about *gay rights* generally...*just* that I hated it that he seemed fine with DOMA.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Unfortunately, it was likely part of some dumb compromise to get Republicans onboard to support something Clinton wanted to do. I saw a thing on TV with him a few months back where he stated he doesn't stand by that legislation now and thinks it was a bad idea. But of course, that doesn't change any crap that happened in relation to that act over the years. It was a very stupid move on his part to even support such a thing to begin with, yes.

Anywho, glad to hear it's been ruled unconstitutional by that court . As for the video...*Shudders*. I don't think I could stand to listen to that. Children reciting back bigoted views is one of the creepiest, most disturbing things in the world.

 

[ShellBeThere]

Unfortunately, it was likely part of some dumb compromise to get Republicans onboard to support something Clinton wanted to do. I saw a thing on TV with him a few months back where he stated he doesn't stand by that legislation now and thinks it was a bad idea. But of course, that doesn't change any crap that happened in relation to that act over the years. It was a very stupid move on his part to even support such a thing to begin with, yes.

Anywho, glad to hear it's been ruled unconstitutional by that court . As for the video...*Shudders*. I don't think I could stand to listen to that. Children reciting back bigoted views is one of the creepiest, most disturbing things in the world.

Ah, yes, thanks for the extra info on his current position--I missed recent interviews with him, even as I would imagine he might now think it was a bad idea!
And I agree about how creepy it is to see little kids reciting such nastiness, so I haven't even been able to stand the idea of clicking play on this one
too sad and disturbing and anger-inducing ultimately....

 

[Irvine511]

what's more disturbing is how the crowd leaps to it's feet the moment the boy says the word "homo."

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Oh, dear .

And yet we can never seem to figure out why some children grow up turning out to be nasty people.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

what's more disturbing is how the crowd leaps to it's feet the moment the boy says the word "homo."

Of course, but at least the adults have made a choice (regardless of how poor, and all the other adjectives you can use, that choice is) and can make that choice. A four year old child can't.

 

[ladyfreckles]

Secret Gay Agenda Revealed - YouTube

 

[deep]

I watched the segment on youtube

Jason Alexander apologizes for calling cricket a 'gay sport' on 'The Late Late Show' | News Briefs | EW.com

I really think he hurt himself professionally, good that he apologized

 

[cobl04]

I just watched it... what a massive overreaction. People need to calm down.

Maybe if he'd said "only anal sex loving faggots play cricket", then sure. But I was only offended because I love cricket and think its better than baseball.

 

[deep]

I just watched it... what a massive overreaction. People need to calm down.

I watched it and we have reached different conclusions.

I am calm.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Strangely enough, I wondered if he'd get any flak for that when I saw that episode.

Yeah, I'm with cobl, pretty sure he wasn't meaning it in an insulting way.

 

[Irvine511]

I love cricket and think its better than baseball.

that's gay.

 

[cobl04]

Put yourself in a gay man's shoes and see if you would be offended by that comment. Please be more sensitive, irvine.

 

[Irvine511]

What kind of shoes are they?