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Old 09-17-2007, 02:14 PM   #21
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There's no way that had to do with the God damn portion. No way. As someone said, they have tons of programming with foul language, there's no way that it had anything to do with it. It was the war comments.

Fair and balanced...
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They may have other shows with foul language, but do you ever hear "goddamn" on network TV? It's always bleeped. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know that network TV allows more profanity now than they ever did. Nothing's changed there. I don't even think characters can say "asshole" yet. All other forms of "ass," but "asshole" is apparently more offensive. Weird.)

They could have bleeped out the one word and left the rest, but honestly, based on the way they did their editing, it seemed like everyone who got "bleeped" had more cut away than just the offensive word.

Maybe it wasn't really intentional to bleep out her whole comment, but their whole delay setup went longer than other delay/bleeps used in other shows/networks.

It was annoying, but I'm willing to give Fox the benefit of the doubt.
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Maybe it wasn't really intentional to bleep out her whole comment, but their whole delay setup went longer than other delay/bleeps used in other shows/networks.

What do you mean? If the delay was longer than others, that means they actually had more time to do correct edits.
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Fox's delay system was weird - instead of just silencing the speaker or inserting a "bleep," there was a visual cutaway to an overhead of the audience, accompanied by silence.

Every cutaway I saw (Ray Romano, Katherine Heigl) had that - it just seemed excessive for everyone, so instead of a one-second bleep or one second of silence, you had this longer silence and a visual cutaway that made it seem like a technical error.

I don't think Sally Field had a longer gap of silence than the others. I'm just saying that because of that system they had in place, her whole sentence got cut off instead of just the "goddamn."
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Gotcha... I didn't watch it, so I can't really comment on that.
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“A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus,” an exultant Griffin said, holding up her statuette. “Suck it, Jesus. This award is my god now.”

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Yes, I agree she should not have been censored. Bleep out the "goddamn" and leave the stinkin' rest.



And the censoring of the word "shit". Big f**king deal. We do it every day, don't we? It's okay to say "crap" on the air but not "shit". What's the "goddamn f**king* difference

Plenty of cleavage apparently is no problem though. Or bad jokes by Brad Garrett and suddenly being thirsty for milk
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I often find Kathy Griffin too annoying for words, but that's hilarious.

I'm okay with not allowing cursing on network TV. Call me old-fashioned in that respect, but there's just no need for it. I understand it's going to slip out in live events and whatnot and it's not worth getting my panties in a wad over, but I like that for the most part, network TV still doesn't allow the cursing on its TV shows.

But yeah, on the other hand, the double-standard between cursing vs. sex and violence that's on the air is pretty ridiculous. I'd rather they lay off the overt sex and violence than pump up the swearing to even it out, though.
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Not to mention the commercials shown at various hours of the day for shows that have "adult content" or double entendres, etc. Or commercials for "E.D."
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The majority of shows I watch are HBO and FX; it delivers the quota of sex, violence and swearing that I demand.
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what exactly did Bono say in 2003?
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Ops, I didn't beep it.


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He said "... fuckin' brilliant" in his excitement over winning the Golden Globe for Best Song.
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And he was tanked.

Which I honestly disapprove of more than the over-used "fuck."
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And he was tanked.

Which I honestly disapprove of more than the over-used "fuck."
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I think Kathy Griffin's remarks were not intended to offend Christianity or Christians (though some Christians will find a reason to be offended over practically anything) but were largely a counterblast to the incredibly tiresome tendency of US entertainers of to thank God/Jesus in their award winners' speeches.

I remember when the MTV awards were on in Dublin in '99, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the US award winners made a point of thanking Jesus in their speech. Unbelievable.
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^^I agree.
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I think Kathy Griffin's remarks were not intended to offend Christianity or Christians (though some Christians will find a reason to be offended over practically anything) but were largely a counterblast to the incredibly tiresome tendency of US entertainers of to thank God/Jesus in their award winners' speeches.

I remember when the MTV awards were on in Dublin in '99, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the US award winners made a point of thanking Jesus in their speech. Unbelievable.

[q]God Finally Gives Shout-Out Back To All His Niggaz
September 5, 2001 | Issue 37•31

SOUTH BRONX, NY—The Lord Almighty finally responded to nearly two decades of praise in hip-hop album liner notes Monday, when He gave a shout-out back to all His loyal niggaz.

"Right about now, I want to send a shout-out to each and every nigga who's shown Me love through the years," said the Lord, His booming voice descending from Heaven. "I got mad love for each and every one of you niggaz. Y'all real niggaz out there, you know who you are. Y'all was there for me, and it's about time I'm-a give some love back to God's true crew."

"All y'all niggaz, y'all be My niggaz," the Lord added.

As of press time, God has thanked nearly 7,000 of His niggaz, including those in New York's Bad Boy and Ruff Ryders posses, the No Limit soldiers and Cash Money Millionaires holdin' it down in New Orleans, Nelly and the whole St. Lunatics crew, Busta and the rest of the Flipmode Squad, His peeps from back in the day, and all the real ruffneck niggaz in lockdown. He also sent shout-outs to everybody in the Old School, as well as to Lil' Bow Wow and all the other new niggaz just coming up.

"Mad props to P. Diddy, Jay-Z, DMX, Lil' Kim, Mystikal, Eve, Ja Rule, Jadakiss, Trick Daddy, and Xzibit. And one love to Meth, RZA, GZA, Ghostface, and the rest of My real niggaz in the Wu-Tang Clan," the deity said. "These My beloved niggaz, with whom I be well-pleased."

Now nearing the 48-hour mark, the Lord's first-ever reciprocal shout-out shows little sign of slowing down. Based on estimates of the number of rappers who have thanked Him in liner notes over the past 20 years, hip-hop experts say the historic shout-out is likely to continue through early next week.

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A pair of shout-out tablets handed down by the Lord.

In addition to rap's current stars, God offered shout-outs to the original hip-hop heads, including such pioneers of the art form as Grandmaster Flash, Busy Bee, Melle Mel, Jazzy Jay, Kool Moe Dee, Afrika Bambaataa, DJ Red Alert, the Cold Crush Brothers, Fab 5 Freddy, Kurtis Blow, Kool Herc, and the Funky 4+1.

God also offered shout-outs to the many DJs, record labels, magazines, TV shows, and radio stations that have tirelessly supported hip-hop over the years. Among them are Def Jam, Tommy Boy, Jive, Roc-A-Fella, Rap Pages, The Source, Right On!, The Box, Funkmaster Flex, Ed Lover and Dr. Dre, WBLS 107.5, KISS-FM, and Hot 97.

"For supporting the many artists who have supported Me so faithfully, I say thank you," God said. "All praise to Devante Harrell, Wanda Simmons, LaShell Thomas, and everybody else at Uptown/MCA for making this possible."

As a further sign of His love for the hip-hop community, God assured the nation's rappers that He is taking good care of all their peers currently with Him in heaven.

"Tupac, Notorious B.I.G., Eazy-E, Scott LaRock—some of y'all niggaz are already up in this bitch," the Lord said. "For those of you who were left behind, know that the Lord has got your dead homies' backs. Faith [Evans], I promise I'm taking real good care of your Biggie. He resting in crazy peace, no doubt."

Thus far, God has not played favorites, thanking such fallen-off acts as Hammer and Vanilla Ice in the same breath as vital artists whose careers are still going strong. The Lord has also seen fit to thank the little-known likes of Baby Tragic, DJ Phreek Malik, and Da Ill Collector—MCs so obscure that virtually no one within the hip-hop community has heard of them. All rappers, God explained, are equal in His sight, and none are too small to escape His notice.

"God sees even the smallest sparrow fall," said Dr. Cornel West, Harvard University professor of African-American studies and philosophy of religion. "The same is true of MCs: Whether a major superstar or a complete unknown, all rappers are His children, and He loves them all."

The sheer volume of names notwithstanding, the nation's rappers are deeply touched by God's gesture of tribute and appreciation, with many stating that they "feelin' Him."

"God is the Original," Brooklyn-based rapper Mos Def said. "The world is ruled by the wealthy and the wicked, but all respect due to the Creator who made this world and who will one day bring justice to the wicked and righteous alike."

Despite the overwhelmingly positive response among rappers, the Lord is drawing fire in certain circles for His use of the word "nigga." On Monday's Larry King Live, conservative activist Rev. Calvin Butts, a longtime ally of the Lord, blasted Him for His "shocking, unexpected use of the racially loaded N-word." Some concerned parties, including decency crusader C. Delores Tucker, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), and members of the San Francisco-based What About The Children? Foundation, are calling for a boycott of church services until God issues an apology.

Reacting to the controversy, many in the hip-hop community are rushing to the Lord's defense.

"The word 'nigga' means different things depending on how it's used and who's saying it," rap legend and Public Enemy frontman Chuck D said. "Judging from context, God obviously wasn't being derogatory. He was using 'nigga' as a blanket term of affection for all His true supporters on the rap scene. At one point, He said, 'I wanna give a shout-out to Ad-Rock, MC Serch, and my man Dan The Automator—all y'all is real niggaz in My all-benevolent sight.' Considering the fact that Ad-Rock and Serch are Jewish, and the Automator is Asian-American, it's clear God isn't talking about race here. He's just paying respect to all those who have paid respect to Him."

"God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters," rapper Ice Cube said. "But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat."[/q]
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Why?
I think public drunkenness and excessive drinking of any kind show a lack of self-control.

It's just my thing.
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