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Old 07-22-2003, 05:13 PM   #21
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My mistake at not posting my source CNN. Here it is the CNN chart for the number of dead. You can read it for yourselves and see if the total for June and July are equal.

Sting, with all due respect next time a polite could you post where you got your numbers would suffice instead of accusing me of posting faulty information.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...sprj.irq.main/
What is a non-hostile death, exactly?

I remember hearing about some soldier dying in a "non-hostile" incident when he fell off the tower he was guarding. If we assume that soldiers are generally agile enough not to fall off tall buildings, I have some idea of what actually happened in this incident.
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:39 PM   #22
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"Sting, like I said, I'm very pleased these 's are gone. It's a great day for Iraq. Please don't accuse people who opposed the war or whatever of being "anti-American". It's our flag, our heritage, our democracy, whatever our political views are. If we give a damn about the country enough to protest actions we thought were harmful to the country we love it's hardly fair to accuse us of being "Anti-American". Trusting Oxfam more than I do Donald Rumsfeld doesn't make me anti-American."

I strongly suggest you re-read precisely what I said. In no place do I claim that people who or are simply opposed to the war are anti-american. But you have accused me of saying something that I did not and I would ask that you please do not do that.
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I strongly suggest you re-read precisely what I said. In no place do I claim that people who or are simply opposed to the war are anti-american. But you have accused me of saying something that I did not and I would ask that you please do not do that.
It is true, he did not, he just lumped you all together in the same sentence. There was nothing intentional by it of course.
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Dreadsox,

My source was in fact CNN, although I was a little high for the month of July and off by one for May and June. Deaths do to hostile fire for May, June and July. CNN has a table that goes in to detail and names all the service members from the coalition that have been killed in Iraq regardless of cause and how specifically they were killed.

May 7

June 17

July 12

Actually, I believe that the report is missing 3 hostile deaths from July. Non-the less, does not change the fact that there has been no increase in the number of deaths do to hostile fire from June to July. Deaths do to hostile fire in July are still less than they were in June at the current time.

"Sting, with all due respect next time a polite could you post where you got your numbers would suffice instead of accusing me of posting faulty information."

I will if its available and time permits, but this is a message/discussion board, and people don't have to have every word they type sited from somewhere.

What I said was correct.
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"It is true, he did not, he just lumped you all together in the same sentence. There was nothing intentional by it of course."

Thats bullshit. Perhaps you need to read what I said.
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Pissing contest now officially over.

This thread returns to the issue of the death(s)(?) of Qusay and Uday Hussein within the next 3 posts or it will be closed.
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Out respect for PAX, I will edit this post.

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/n...e=20030768.txt
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"Sting, like I said, I'm very pleased these 's are gone. It's a great day for Iraq. Please don't accuse people who opposed the war or whatever of being "anti-American". It's our flag, our heritage, our democracy, whatever our political views are. If we give a damn about the country enough to protest actions we thought were harmful to the country we love it's hardly fair to accuse us of being "Anti-American". Trusting Oxfam more than I do Donald Rumsfeld doesn't make me anti-American."

I strongly suggest you re-read precisely what I said. In no place do I claim that people who or are simply opposed to the war are anti-american. But you have accused me of saying something that I did not and I would ask that you please do not do that.
I'm sorry, Sting and mods. I fked up big time.
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Old 07-22-2003, 06:29 PM   #29
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Thanks. Its cool.
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I hope they got them alive
If they were captured alive, this whole mess would end up in litigation - the great American tradition.
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If they were captured alive, this whole mess would end up in litigation - the great American tradition.
A lawsuit thing?? I'm confused. You mean they'd get sued?
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No, they would sue the US government for trespass, infliction of emotional distress, pain and suffering, etc.
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nbcrusader: *lol*
Besides the fact that from my christian values i prefer that even enemies are living. I guess it would have bin helpful if the US army could ask them some questions (for example about the WMDs) but if the cenario is the way we could read about it the US forces had no big choices.

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Interesting, is that what Milosovic did?
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Egads, did Milosevic sue? When? Geez, what an evil . I guess dictators will be dictators.
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I was just watching the news (no, it wasn't Fox ) There was a report about Uday (sp???) having the Iraqi soccer team tortured after they lost in the Olympics. I'd read stuff about them like that. Horrors. It's tough for me to consider people like them human.
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I was just watching the news (no, it wasn't Fox ) There was a report about Uday (sp???) having the Iraqi soccer team tortured after they lost in the Olympics. I'd read stuff about them like that. Horrors. It's tough for me to consider people like them human.
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Besides the fact that from my christian values i prefer that even enemies are living. I guess it would have bin helpful if the US army could ask them some questions (for example about the WMDs) but if the cenario is the way we could read about it the US forces had no big choices.

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Yeah this woulda been great.

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Saddam's sons would have been worth a lot more to us alive in captivity than they are dead.

Turning Saddam's sons over to the Hague tribunal for prosecution would have gotten the UN and the Europeans back on board, and gotten us some relief on reconstruction and on troops.

Turning them over to the Hague would have been better for the Iraqi people, too, who probably are not going to be persuaded that Saddam's sons are really dead by any dental records or DNA analysis CENTCOM can produce. Prosecuting them live on TV for weeks on endóthat would have been persuasive...... <snip>
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I think Saddam's sons would never allow themselves to be captured alive. They would have killed themselves first.
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Shit happens eh?

I heard our PM talking about this on the radio today and he was saying something like how this was a great psychological victory etc etc. I just thought good onya Johnny, you tool. I hope other more listened to and significant leaders aren't spewing the same shit too loudly. I don't disagree with it at all, but way to piss these people off even more!
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