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Old 10-03-2007, 07:25 PM   #181
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i find the Jane Fonda effigies far more offensive.
More offensive than the Bush effigies at the rallies? Or the effigies of American troops?
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:30 PM   #182
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You are a phony soldier when you lie about your service. I think that was the point Rush was making - and I agree.

I disagree with the soldiers that think we shouldn't be in Iraq, but that doesn't make them phony.
I can't believe you're still caught up on this: Rush WAS NOT referring to one soldier. He was referring to ANY soldier that speaks out against the war.
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AEON -- You are a soldier, correct? Do you believe in what you are doing?
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I can't believe you're still caught up on this: Rush WAS NOT referring to one soldier. He was referring to ANY soldier that speaks out against the war.
Well, we disagree. And honestly, I don't care because I'm not much of a Rush Limbaugh fan.

I do think he makes a good point that it was disgusting how the press ran with the story about the soldier claiming he was an Army Ranger (about elite as you get in our Army) and had witnessed these horrendous atrocities - without checking the facts and his background (it turns out this guy didn't even make it out of boot camp).
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AEON -- You are a soldier, correct? Do you believe in what you are doing?
Of course I do. I re-joined to be an officer in the National Guard in 2003 (I had previously served Active Duty).
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Well, we disagree. And honestly, I don't care because I'm not much of a Rush Limbaugh fan.

I do think he makes a good point that it was disgusting how the press ran with the story about the soldier claiming he was an Army Ranger (about elite as you get in our Army) and had witnessed these horrendous atrocities - without checking the facts and his background (it turns out this guy didn't even make it out of boot camp).
But once again, he uses one example to paint the whole picture. I don't see how you can disagree. He doesn't say "a phony soldier." He says "THE phony soldierS."
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I don't see how you can disagree.
I don't see how anyone can be a liberal, but it happens.
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You missed the point entirely. Do you disagree that he said "the phony soldiers" and not "a phony soldier?"
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I do think he makes a good point that it was disgusting how the press ran with the story about the soldier claiming he was an Army Ranger (about elite as you get in our Army) and had witnessed these horrendous atrocities - without checking the facts and his background (it turns out this guy didn't even make it out of boot camp).
Honestly

I did not even hear his false claims

and if he never existed
and any other ones that made up the stories

it would not make much difference.

I did not believe in this Iraq War from the start without any fake stories
(but was it fake stories and evidence that got us there?)

and there are plenty of real stories that make our involvement in Iraq seem not worth the price we are paying


I listen to enough of Limbaugh to say that I believe he meant to label anyone that does not support to continue mission in Iraq
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The beautiful logic of the Left. I'm glad they don't attack...

Careful AEON, pics like that offend diamond - wouldn't want him reporting you.
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Of course I do. I re-joined to be an officer in the National Guard in 2003 (I had previously served Active Duty).
If you believe in what you do, why do you care so much what others think? You seem very caught up on having everyone tell you that you (soldiers plural) are both doing a wonderful job and are engaged in a mission which will benefit this and other countries. Not everyone thinks both of those are true. You aren't ever going to get 100% approval -- no one does.

You live in a country that supposedly values freedom of speech and thought, but it seems you only believe that if it doesn't run afoul of the official line. It doesn't work that way, and it was never supposed to work that way. If you believe what you are doing is correct, you do it. And let others do the same.
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Where has he opposed the right to dissent?
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I don't see how anyone can be a liberal, but it happens.
Damn education and open minds... damn them!!!
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I wonder how many conservatives believe in the power of crystals or homeopathy (I would attack the power of conservatives to believe in a conservative God, but then pretty much everybody claims that fantasy as their own); intelligence and political ideology are not directly associated with intelligence, regardless of how elite it may make one feel.
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I can't believe you're still caught up on this: Rush WAS NOT referring to one soldier. He was referring to ANY soldier that speaks out against the war.
If you read the entire transcript I don't believe this was the gist of it. He was referring to Macbeth and folks who had the same questionable service record as his.
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If you read the entire transcript I don't believe this was the gist of it. He was referring to Macbeth and folks who had the same questionable service record as his.
I completely disagree. The whole MacBeth thing came up a caller or two after "the phony soldiers."
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If you believe in what you do, why do you care so much what others think?
Isn't that a major purpose of this forum? To listen and discuss with others with opposing views? I'm sure I can spend more time in a Right wing dominated website, but this is far more engaging.

When I see something I disagree with, and I have the time, I'll join the discussion. What's the big deal? Isn't it more fun to beat up on the handful of Conservatives that venture into here than simply post applause smileys to every Liberal point?
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Careful AEON, pics like that offend diamond - wouldn't want him reporting you.
I know. And to think these folks paraded signs like this around in front of children. But hey, in San Francisco anything goes.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:37 PM   #199
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That doesn't even make sense. Kerry lost because he wouldn't take a true stance on anything, ...
Obviously you haven't been a soilder, soildiers are taught to make decisions, take stances and live by them..

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More offensive than the Bush effigies at the rallies? Or the effigies of American troops?


yes, more offensive than the Bush effigies.

i have never, ever seen an American soldier effigy at an American peace rally.

but, again, if you need to convince yourself that the people opposed to this war are evil people who hate you, go right ahead.

it's quite clear that i can't stop you.
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