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Ghost of Love
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Rumsfeld Finally Tells The Truth + Illogical War Plans
Well just having watched the most recent Pentagon briefing live minutes ago, I can finally say I've heard an honest statement from this
__________________![]() On whether or not a US led invasion of Iraq was inevitable: 'well I think we all still hope that we can peacefully and diplomatically force Saddam to disarm' *question: how do you see that happening?* 'well it could happen in a number of ways..Saddam could leave, his so-called friends could convince him to leave, or the people in his army could decide that it doesn't make sense to defend a regime that will soon be gone' Ok, looking at these options logically, assuming of course that Iraq/Hussein possesses these horrific weapons of mass destruction that the UN claims they do: Option 1 - Saddam leaves, and the US does not invade...hmmm...does this mean he takes his stockpile of WMD with him? If so, where? If not, who gets to keep them? And who will be in control of them? Doesnt that sortof defeat the whole purpose, ie eliminating the weapons? Or will the US have to invade anyways just to make sure they are all destroyed? Option 2 - see Option 1. Option 3 - like DUH you freaking idiot, if his army stands down you will still invade. That wasn't an option under the question posed. Come to think of it, if the US invades and depose Saddam, will they then be forced to excavate, uncover, whatever, all these thousands of supposed WMDs and verifiably destroy them in front of the UN inspection teams? I mean, logically, that is what the US is saying they want to do, right? Acheive the destruction of Saddam's weapons? In other words, the whole 'disarmament' thing is a sham, a ruse, a petty excuse for a war that should not happen. This whole thing is about Saddam Hussein and oil. And don't freakin tell me that the US only gets 9% of its oil from Iraq blah blah blah etc etc....it doesnt matter where it goes, what matters is that Iraq has the largest verifiable oil reserve in the world. Control of that would make the US infinitely powerful in an OPEC situation and that power is the real prize here, regardless of where the oil eventually gets exported to. The way I see it, the Iraqi army could gather up every last rocket, gun, knife and kitchen utensil into the valley of Meggido and set fire to it and the US would still go in after Hussein. Oh yeah, they did some more 'significant disarmament' today, and Blix in his press conference seemed to indicate that his position on Friday will be that the concrete objectives of the inspections are finally being realized. Like that really matters tho?? This puts the US in the unenviable position of violating major international laws (i.e. last time I checked we werent supposed to declare war on leaders just cause we dont like them), and thus they stand a great chance of being DEALT WITH internationally. Hey, if we're going to have a war, lets go all the way...how bout a world war 3 situation where France Russia and Germany (with China probably signing on) decide that it is (and it is) there responsibility to enforce the UN mandate and enforce continued inspections and protect the UN teams. Let them send their armies down and kick the US army's ass all over the middle east. Then they can drop some almost-nuclear bombs on them too cause thats the most expeditious way to deal with aggressive invaders who would be too much trouble to fight conventionally. GO WAR! YAY IM SO HAPPY WE'RE GOIN INTO WW3!!!
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Actually, I think Gabriel is right. Bush is going to send troops into Iraq no matter what anyone else says. He WANTS this too much. To a degree where he couldn't care less about what it does to the world, Americans, or anyone else. It's sad to think that a man with such hatred for someone is in control of one of the largest military forces in the world.
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Somehow I don't see why Bush is the bad guy when he has given Saddam every opportunity to disarm in the first place. If Saddam had complied months ago, we wouldn't be where we are now.
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Rumsfeld's comments make the position explicitly clear that even if all they had were bows and arrows, as long as Saddam remains in power the US will attack. Like I said, at least someone is finally telling the truth.
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Clearly then your sentiments don't match Rumsfeld's.
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And, debates about their effectiveness aside, I would say that the kicking the sand comment does them a disservice. From all accounts they seem to be doing the job laid out for them.
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It's the biggest bluff in the history of the world!!!
__________________Please. please let it be... I can only hope ... Saddam will fall for it /comply to it or laugh it off, ??? Know it sound simplistic, Wish it were so.. Pray it is so... |
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