Resistance Fighters or Terrorists?

[A_Wanderer]

Yeah those wedding celebrations in Iraq at 2:00 in the morning where there are only men inside a house filled with weapons, explosives, drugs, fake passports and money. Those are the usual Iraqi wedding's.

A WMD is a Chemical, Biological or Nuclear weapon. DU fits none of those categories so how is it a WMD?

America tollerated Saddam in the 1980's because he was just like any other Arab dicator, after he invaded Kuwait they had had enough but having driven him out the world wasn't ready to remove him, that is when Sanctions took effect and that is where the long and arduous process of disarment by UNSCOM began. Saddam didn't properly disarm he obfuscated and eventually kicked the inspectors out in 1998, Bill Clinton was ready to invade Iraq after operation Desert Fox but he was prevented by the UN, in the subsequent 5 years it was the stated policy of the United States to seek regime change in Iraq, it was late by about a decade but it happened and it is a good thing.

[Celticfc]

Fox news tell you this story or maybe abc or nbc.

Saddam was led to believe by the US that they wouldnt do anything if he invaded Iraq.
Also when reports came in on the news about the build up of Iraq troops the satelite pics did not show anything of the sort.

America and the Brits have been bombing Iraq on a daily basis since the end of the gulf war.

I still think DU are WMD's.

Stated policy of the neo cons. Try reading A project for a new american century, this is the only thing we agree on.

They state in that report that America would need another pearl harbour for their policies to be carried out.

Originally posted by A_Wanderer
Yeah those wedding celebrations in Iraq at 2:00 in the morning where there are only men inside a house filled with weapons, explosives, drugs, fake passports and money. Those are the usual Iraqi wedding's.

A WMD is a Chemical, Biological or Nuclear weapon. DU fits none of those categories so how is it a WMD?

America tollerated Saddam in the 1980's because he was just like any other Arab dicator, after he invaded Kuwait they had had enough but having driven him out the world wasn't ready to remove him, that is when Sanctions took effect and that is where the long and arduous process of disarment by UNSCOM began. Saddam didn't properly disarm he obfuscated and eventually kicked the inspectors out in 1998, Bill Clinton was ready to invade Iraq after operation Desert Fox but he was prevented by the UN, in the subsequent 5 years it was the stated policy of the United States to seek regime change in Iraq, it was late by about a decade but it happened and it is a good thing.

[A_Wanderer]

April Glaspie sent mixed messages just prior to the invasion of Kuwait, that was a failure of diplomacy but hardly a nod to invade. There was a definite buildup of forces prior to the invasion of Kuwait however the original Bush administration still thought that Saddam was telling the truth to Hosni Mubbarak when he said it was a ruse and it was designed to stop Kuwaiti oil flooding the country.

The no-fly zones within Iraq were maintained to prevent Saddam from being able to massacre his own people again, this was part of the containment but the whole operation failed to remove the regime, it was better to remove him outright in a war thus ending the ongoing need to have US troops in Saudi Arabia (the original aim of Al Qaeda was removal of troops from Saudi Arabia now that has been done - and yet Al Qaeda still exists).

PNAC does lay out some good arguments about the use of American Power in a unipower world, now this last piece where you allude to another Pearl Harbour, are you trying to say that the neoconservatives were behind 9/11 in some way.

Can you tell me why DU is a WMD when it is clearly a conventional armament.

[Celticfc]

Im saying nothing about who I think was behind 9/11.

Here is one article about DU

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...106672,00.html

Now that I know that you are in agreement with the neocons as I thought all along this thread is dead.


Slan

Originally posted by A_Wanderer
April Glaspie sent mixed messages just prior to the invasion of Kuwait, that was a failure of diplomacy but hardly a nod to invade. There was a definite buildup of forces prior to the invasion of Kuwait however the original Bush administration still thought that Saddam was telling the truth to Hosni Mubbarak when he said it was a ruse and it was designed to stop Kuwaiti oil flooding the country.

The no-fly zones within Iraq were maintained to prevent Saddam from being able to massacre his own people again, this was part of the containment but the whole operation failed to remove the regime, it was better to remove him outright in a war thus ending the ongoing need to have US troops in Saudi Arabia (the original aim of Al Qaeda was removal of troops from Saudi Arabia now that has been done - and yet Al Qaeda still exists).

PNAC does lay out some good arguments about the use of American Power in a unipower world, now this last piece where you allude to another Pearl Harbour, are you trying to say that the neoconservatives were behind 9/11 in some way.

Can you tell me why DU is a WMD when it is clearly a conventional armament.

[MSU2mike]

Originally posted by Celticfc


My main arguement is the moral highground the US & the Brits take.
I know Sadaam is a complete nut but he was an alright nutjob until he went against the US.
I dont know anythin about the Russians using chemical weapons.
America has used chemical weapons and WMD also.
Wasnt Khomeni put in power by the US after the got rid of the Shah.
I know we are not going to agree anyways so is there any point going on with this.

All Ill say about 9/11 is I dont think a wee guy in a cave could mastermind that plot. Saying nothin else on the matter, big brother might be watchin.

watch out orange alert. be scared, be controlled.

Keep an eye out for those black helicopters, they're coming after you!

[Dreadsox]

Originally posted by Celticfc
War my feckin arse and yet again no need to for the grow up shite. I have my opinions if you dont like them thats to bad.
I am not going to change my mind because you reply with a big feckin essay.

I respect the essay....its posts filled with inaccuracies that I cannot stand.

[verte76]

These people aren't just going to go away, either. They'll be around carrying their guns for God knows how long. Depressing.