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Old 01-08-2003, 06:31 PM   #21
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i think i've always *hoped* there was an afterlife.

but in this lifetime, i don't really believe in reincarnation. perhaps in another one, I will.
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GREAT subject!!

Although the thought of dying scares the piss outta me, this is one of my favorite subjects (the afterlife, that is.....not the process of getting there).

The story of Sam Kinison's death is very, very interesting. The friend who was holding him while he was having this "mysterious conversation" was a fellow-comedian. I watched an interview with this guy (can't recall his name), and he said he is convinced of an afterlife, and that there's "no way you could've been there and NOT believe in an afterlife." He said that he actually "felt" Sam Kinison "leave."

I think he said Kinison's last words were, "But...I don't want to die" followed by, "ooooooh.....okay....okay."

Perhaps the neatest story I've read on this subject is that of Johnny Cash's older brother, who died when they were kids. In one of his books, J.C. said that his brother told his mom not to cry for him because he was going to a beautiful city, and he asked everyone in the room if they could hear the beautiful singing.
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Old 01-09-2003, 02:33 AM   #23
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Perhaps the neatest story I've read on this subject is that of Johnny Cash's older brother, who died when they were kids. In one of his books, J.C. said that his brother told his mom not to cry for him because he was going to a beautiful city, and he asked everyone in the room if they could hear the beautiful singing.
this is common too.
singing and heavenly cities..usually after the realives and journey thru the tunnel.

very similar.

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Old 01-11-2003, 07:21 AM   #24
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I'm not trying to demean your grandfather's final moments, but while you see his actions as a crossover to another dimension, I see a man halucinating due to a great deal of stress and pain.

But why should he hallucinate about a boat ride? And why did his face relax if it was great stress and pain?

I donīt know what to believe about seeing other spirits again... but I donīt think all religions put such heavy importance on afterlife bc there is just nothing. At least, i am sure there happens a transfomation of energy.

Danospano, also if you donīt believe in any religion, the quest if there is an afterlife can be clearly answered w yes; depending on how we define afterlife. Let me explain.

You know that every body is made up of molecules, then atoms, then elementary parts. Now, those are not "physical" parts in a sense, but waves, its energy. We all are made up of energy, everything is made up of energy swinging around, sometimes "in tune". So, when we die physically, anyway our mortal body doesnīt stop to be energy, it just transcends. The elementary parts donīt die. Whether the worms eat your body or your body is burnt or whatever, energy stays the same. And this is afterlife too, possibly without a conscience, possibly without meeting your best friends and going for a Guiness w him in Godīs Almighty Bar (or Mephisto nightclub) - but sth. stays.

Then, there are all those traditions; in African cultures we got masks representing forefathers, apart from religions and stuff.

I think there is something - weīll all find out sooner or later what it is.
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last summer a good friend of mine went hiking in the desert. he was irresponsible and went without the proper supplies. (temperatures here have reached as high as 120-130 degrees) he was gone for two days when they found him. his body came back, but his spirit stayed behind. in my kitchen i have camel bells, from india, and for three days after i would hear the bells softly, ever so softly ringing...very faintly, like a gentle vibration. i do not know where we go when we are gone, either...but i have never heard those bells ring before (they are flat against the wall) and i have not heard them since the third day after i lost my friend. who knows? maybe it was his way of telling me goodbye...
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