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Operation Gladio - a conspiracy theory that turned out to be true
Conspiracy theories and theorists are routinely scorned on this forum.
__________________Here is a 'conspiracy theory' that turned out to be true:- Operation Gladio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote:
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And not that there's anything wrong with Wikipedia, but it's not exactly the source I would use to prove a conspiracy true. |
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Well, why not address the topic? That article seems well-researched. Are the quotes from Andreotti and others incorrect?
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It seems to me there are a few individuals here at FYM that have such a disdain for anything conspiritorial that they'll bend over backwards to disprove, shrugg off or simply laugh about ANY and ALL "theories" - never allowing themselves the room to contemplate that there may be certain TRUTHS that they were not taught in school, that never made it into the history books and that may have been purposely kept from us by individuals, agencies or Governments.
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Secondly, all I was saying is I wouldn't use Wiki to prove a conspiracy. It's great for a lot of things, but when it comes to proving the controversial it's not your best tool. Wiki itself stated some sections were under review. Personally I don't know much about the topic and would need to do more research to see if those quotes and other facts are real. |
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Well this argument of yours has been shot down more times than I can count. You often believe in conspiracy theories just for the sake of believing them and argue them with little to no facts. We like things to be backed up in here, call us silly ![]() |
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I am not really sure where the conspiracy is here.....but.....I for one have no interest in looking into it or searching for the research to make a case. |
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Anytime you want to actually DISCUSS an issue.... |
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You basically brought me out with your ravings. Which, make me laugh! Clearly, I am not intelligent enough to ignore evidence when it does not fit the conspiracy. I thought it would be nice to let you have your moment, you know? Kind of like a cat playing with a mouse. |
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Ummmmm....I could really have saved myself a lot of time and money with the amount of research I have done on Kennedy if I believed everything my government told me.
You and Harry can have fun with this. It probably is true, and my comment about where is the conspiracy is real....Where is the beef? |
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And then subsequently various government ministers came out and said, after all, that Operation Gladio DID exist. So, effectively, we had a conspiracy theory that 'went mainstream' and became generally accepted, more or less. It's a legitimate and worthwhile point, in my opinion. |
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I guess we have a different view of what a conspiracy is....
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How is this evil or unlawful? I guess that is what I am missing. I see this as history, and if the evidence is theere, pretty informative information about the depths of the cold war. I guess that is why I feel the way I do about this. I admit, I do not know enough about it, and find wiki to be less than a scholarly source, but a good jump off point |
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A conspiracy I would more or less define as the first definition cited of 'the act of conspiring together', I wouldn't define it as 'a group of people working to accomplish something evil or unlawful'.
It looks to me that you think that I'm suggesting there was something evil or wrong about fighting the Cold War, which I most certainly am not. |
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All governments conduct intelligence, counter intelligence operations ect....I think what happens is that we have situations in which CONSPIRACIES are alleged due to the nature of intelligence networks trying to keep their means and operatives protected. I do not understand why this is not a wow, look at this, there were groups set up to provide resistance should the soviet union take over. That to me is more of wow, look what history has revealed to us finally. I think this will be the case in many instances. Be it, documents and information witheld to provide assets, surveillance equipment ect. I am not attacking you or your position. I just do not think it a conspiracy. |
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Of course, there are conspiracies towards good ends and conspiracies towards evil ends. I consider this in the former category. |
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