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Old 01-10-2017, 09:45 PM   #441
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or fake news
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I do think the shooters objective was terror.



Airport Shooter Converted to Islam, Identified as Aashiq Hammad Years Before Joining Army - Judicial Watch
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This is pertinent information that the Obama administration apparently wants to keep quiet, bringing up memories of the Benghazi cover up, in which the president and his cohorts knowingly lied to conceal that Islamic terrorists attacked the U.S. Special Mission in Libya.

The businessman, respected Ft. Lauderdale real estate entrepreneur Jim Morlock, specifically names Broward County’s elected sheriff Scott Israel, Florida senator Bill Nelson, the first to identify Santiago as the shooter on national television, and congressman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, ousted last summer as Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair over a scandalous plot to damage Bernie Sanders during the primary.

“Since when does a US Senator (Bill Nelson), not law enforcement, be the one to so quickly release this terrorist’s Hispanic name but nothing about his more relevant Islamic background?” the letter asks. Obama must have told Sen. Nelson to keep this from looking like a Muslim Terrorist attack during the last 12 days of his watch. Bad for his legacy.” Morlock goes on to state that it’s “better to portray this atrocity as white Hispanic Alaskan mental Iraq war vet gun violence.” The real estate entrepreneur proceeds to reveal that Santiago lives in walking distance to the only mosque in Alaska, was radicalized before he entered the military and was knowingly allowed to serve despite his Islamic sympathies thanks to “Obama’s PC military.”

Back in 2012 Judicial Watch reported on a terrorist front group’s demands that Broward County public schools close twice a year to celebrate Islamic holy days, illustrating the influence that Muslims have in the region.

Sounds like a real credible source...


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Seeing something Breaking about a supermarket in Spain right now


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You should take this up with the NRA.

What does the NRA have to do with this?

It was the FBI. Can we not agree on that as a fact?
No problem discussing the issue on whether people should have the right to bear arms, but that is not the point here.

Like in the other cases of terrorism the FBI did not follow through. They dropped the ball. The Russians warned hem about the Boston bombers.
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Like in the other cases of terrorism the FBI did not follow through.
That Comey guy seems to be doing a heckuva job then, eh?
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What does the NRA have to do with this?



It was the FBI. Can we not agree on that as a fact?





Like in the other cases of terrorism the FBI did not follow through. They dropped the ball. The Russians warned hem about the Boston bombers.

You stated "the gun was returned to him". Why? Because the NRA has removed as many common sense laws as they can.

Do you realize how many suspects the FBI has on their radar? They turned him over to the local authorities, who admitted him, the hospital somehow found him fit and the NRA got their wish of another person with mental issues having a gun.



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What does the NRA have to do with this?

It was the FBI. Can we not agree on that as a fact?
No problem discussing the issue on whether people should have the right to bear arms, but that is not the point here.

Like in the other cases of terrorism the FBI did not follow through. They dropped the ball. The Russians warned hem about the Boston bombers.
because the NRA has over and over again lobbied against sane and rational gun control - things that a super majority of Americans believe in - in the interest of profit.

that's why.

because the NRA has fought against preventing suspected terrorists from buying a gun. so even if the FBI had thought this guy was radicalized (btw... he wasn't. he's a kook who needed psychiatric help... which the FBI sought to get him, actually), they couldn't have prevented him from purchasing a gun.

that's kinda why, too.
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Awful, terrible mosque shooting in Quebec. 5 dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-canada-deaths
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Huh, I wonder what national event nearby to Canada could possibly have spurred on such a hateful act as this...
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Huh, I wonder what national event nearby to Canada could possibly have spurred on such a hateful act as this...

Were you hoping for a certain motivation while the bodies were still warm?


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You're right, the real problem is people pointing out how often these attacks are carried out by radicalized white guys who spent a little too much time online being told minorities ruined their lives. Not the terrorists themselves.
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Don't even bother to engage. You know what his response would be if the victims were white. He's a waste of time communicating with and a lost cause. Put your efforts into a more positive direction.
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This is the most common cop out of an answer from the right I've seen. You're going to come in here and try and deflect criticism by trying to frame your opposition as insensitive towards the dead...

Please.
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Don't even bother to engage. You know what his response would be if the victims were white. He's a waste of time communicating with and a lost cause. Put your efforts into a more positive direction.

You and I share some similar views, but I feel like we always differ on what to engage 😬
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This is the most common cop out of an answer from the right I've seen. You're going to come in here and try and deflect criticism by trying to frame your opposition as insensitive towards the dead...

Please.

Bono212 seems to be insinuating that Trump's travel ban was somehow motivation for the shooters.

Sad statement.


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Sad statement.


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the travel ban? yes, very sad.
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Sad statement.


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why is that a "sad statement" though? You can disavow it, and I already know you do. But it's very likely that the "you're not welcome here" message propagated into a hate crime. Definite? Nothing is definite.
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You and I share some similar views, but I feel like we always differ on what to engage 😬
Teehee. Maybe some day.
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No it wasn't the travel ban that incited this violence. It was trumps rhetoric and hate filled messages over the last 1-2 years that sent a precedent that it is OK to hate on and pick on a certain group such as Muslims. Plain and simple.
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No it wasn't the travel ban that incited this violence. It was trumps rhetoric and hate filled messages over the last 1-2 years that sent a precedent that it is OK to hate on and pick on a certain group such as Muslims. Plain and simple.
Not sure it's possible or necessary to lay blame this early, but the general normalizing of 'muslims are bad and worth less than us' is scary as hell and surely doesn't help.
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