DaveC
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lunatic assassins...
i met him once as a wide eyed hero worshipping teenager, total asshole
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And even if he was self radicalized, which is possible, it still doesn't negate the other points.I think we are all adults here and can understand that just because he pledged allegiance to ISIS doesn't mean it was his motivation for the shooting. It doesn't mean they orchestrated it. It doesn't even mean they were aware he existed.
It's entirely plausible, and I think likely, that the pledge was said to deflect from whatever his reasons for shooting up the club actually were. Or it was done to boost his "street cred", if you will.
But clearly he was an unstable person and able to purchase high-powered weaponry with relative ease, something which reasonable people outside the U.S. simply cannot fathom.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@AP: BREAKING: Senate blocks Democratic measure to close gun show loophole and expand background checks.
We need those AR-15s in case the government ever tries to oppress us, as an AR-15 is secretly very good against tanks and stealth bombers.
and the terrorists win yet again
Yeah, I think the Far Right definitely won when England revealed their assassin's cry of "Britain first," too. Yes, this is how this works.
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I'm talking about the NRA. They're a highly organized terrorist group that does everything in their power to get as many guns on the streets as possible. If they flood the streets and loosen the laws they know the guns will get in the hands of the mentally ill, the desperate, and the angry and we'll have more mass shootings. Then they can strike fear in you so that you keep arming yourself. Sales rise. And then they convince you that responsible and logical laws that most thinking people want are moves to "take your guns". They're using the American people as pawns.
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Fair enough. Posted my message before you edited yours to include "American" and changed the original quote you were responding to.
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I didn't edit anything, those were two separate posts.
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Even from the perspective of a hardened gun nut, I don't understand the logic that it ought to be easier for a person on a terrorist watch list to buy an assault rifle than to hop on a plane to visit their sick mother or whatever.
Oops, you're right on that.
In that case, should the federal government redact documents when they decide doing otherwise would scare the stupid, easily swayed proletariat?
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Wouldn't that suggest the processes and criteria of adding people to no-fly and similar lists is flawed and should be revised, not that people under genuine suspicion of terroristic sympathies should be permitted to purchase high-powered weaponry?
Moreover, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the States I would arouse some form of suspicion if I rather obviously went about buying the ingredients for a bomb, but nobody will bat an eyelid if I buy a gun capable of murdering fifty people in a single event.
they basically gave ISIS another notch in their headboard they don't deserve.
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/745050768688955392
Even pro-gun control figures like Glenn Greenwald are a little slow to accept the terror watch list bans.
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so by "the terrorists win," you were indeed referring to ISIS, not the NRA, as I originally implied.
Why make life difficult by denying this in the first place?