ongoing mass shootings thread

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

I also heard something about one of the shooters being there early to stake it out to "make sure a certain person was there" which sounds a lot more plausible and makes more sense with the "left and came back" theory.

That's really disturbing. Good lord.

Originally Posted by Axver

Surely the best proof against the "we need more guns!" argument is that these mass shootings are occurring with alarming regularity in a country with lax gun laws, not in the countries with strict gun control.

Unfortunately people just point to the fact that crime happens in cities or states here in the U.S. that have strict gun laws as their argument against that, and therefore, according to them, it won't matter how strict our laws are. They forget that the reason that happens is because those strict laws aren't uniform across the nation, like they are in other countries.

Originally Posted by Axver

"Good people with guns" don't save people from mass shooters. Making it really fucking hard for anybody to get guns saves people from mass shooters.

Exactly. Like I said a few pages back in this thread (after the last shooting, no less), all of these killers were taken down by law enforcement or they killed themselves. At no point have any of these situations ended with some random passerby pulling out their own personal gun and going after the shooter. So where people are getting this idea that arming average citizens is the solution, I do not understand.

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

If this is ISIS related or inspired, I can only hope that the assault rifles were purchased legally so that we can finally send Wayne Lapierre to Guantanamo

Ohhhhhh, would that we could do something like this. If we could make the NRA legally responsible somehow for all of these shootings, and take down the top brass that way, that would be beautiful. Not gonna happen, but a girl can dream, right?

[david]

News confirmed Farouq Saeed Muhammad as the suspect. They interviewed his father already and he was supposedly a devout muslim.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

Unfortunately people just point to the fact that crime happens in cities or states here in the U.S. that have strict gun laws as their argument against that, and therefore, according to them, it won't matter how strict our laws are. They forget that the reason that happens is because those strict laws aren't uniform across the nation, like they are in other countries.

Oh my favorite part of this always has to be the Chicago debate.

"Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country"
"Yeah....and Indiana has some of the laxest."
"You think people are crossing into Indiana to purchase guns? You can't do that."
"Yes...?"

[Moonlit_Angel]

Yeah, I had a similar debate with some guy on another site once, too, and he refused to believe that was a thing that happened.

I mean, people go to other states to obtain fireworks that they can't get where they live, for crying out loud. Why wouldn't they do the same with guns?

[Axver]

Wow people cross state lines to acquire things they cannot get at home?

WHO KNEW.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by Axver

Wow people cross state lines to acquire things they cannot get at home?

WHO KNEW.

But it's not possible, Axver.

It is apparently IMPOSSIBLE to buy a guy in another state with an out-of-state license. My cousins tell me this is so.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by bono_212

This exchange with my cousin is depressing:

Cousin: Did you know that 60 gun related deaths happened in Chicago alone in September ...deadliest September since 2002 .chicago has the strictest gun laws and yet Obama doesn't mention this from his very own hometown?

Me: And Indiana has some of the weakest gun control laws. No one wants to mention that either. This is what happens when you let the states decide on an issue like this. Illinois can do what they want, but they can't make it harder to get a gun in the state that's right next door.

Him: So your telling me they can come over with their Illinois drivers license and come to Indiana and purchase a gun ? You better do some more research because they can't.

Me: Yes. I am telling you that

Indiana guns: Favorite of Chicago gangbangers | WGN-TV

I await his response...

Forgot I posted this in here before.

[david]

Apparently the suspects had been receiving a lot of packages in the mail recently and working on something in their garage late at night according to neighbors.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by Axver

Wow people cross state lines to acquire things they cannot get at home?

WHO KNEW.

I know, right? Crazy talk.

But further proof for you of the kind of sheer idiocy we have to go up against with this debate, unfortunately.

[deep]

I found different spelling on the name



that could be him ?

Suspect ID'd in San Bernardino Massacre as Syed Farook - The Daily Beast


Syed Raheel Farook Facebook Photo: San Bernardino Shooting Suspect ID’d, 2nd Man Possibly Farook’s Brother

[david]

Yeah, I've seen multiple versions of the spelling of his name. The woman suspect that was killed was possibly his wife and the other guy was possibly his brother. All is known is that he worked for Department of Public Health as an inspector.

[deep]

and he had children ???





I'm voting for Trump !

[bono_212]

Can we NOT keep posting names and pictures of mass murderers?

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by david

Yeah, I've seen multiple versions of the spelling of his name. The woman suspect that was killed was possibly his wife and the other guy was possibly his brother. All is known is that he worked for Department of Public Health as an inspector.

Wow.

So do they think he's the one that had the beef with someone at the party, then, and he roped his wife and brother into helping him get revenge? Or was it one of the others who had the issue?

Very, very twisted and weird situation all around.

[martha]

Originally Posted by bono_212

Can we NOT keep posting names and pictures of mass murderers?

THIS times infinity.


And their innocent children?

[PhilsFan]

I don't think the "beef with someone at the party" thing makes much sense. It was pre-planned.

[Axver]

Originally Posted by bono_212

Can we NOT keep posting names and pictures of mass murderers?

Do we even actually have confirmation this is the guy? I thought it was all still speculative...? If it's some poor bastard unassociated with events, that's even worse.

[deep]

Yes because everybody will see it here vs the major news link I found it on. While you're at it please delete CNN and divorce yourself from reality.

[Oregoropa]

I first learned of the Paris attacks while on the Blue Crack. Names are part of the news. I don't see any problem posting them.

[BEAL]

Wonder if he got his gun over Black Friday??

Just read an article earlier that said enough guns were purchased to arm the marine corps. Over 185k officially.

Now, that only shows one sale. Multiple guns bought on the transaction would not show up.

See if I can find it again


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