ongoing mass shootings thread

[david]

I'm hearing that the argument at the holiday party thing too..

[Axver]

It's definitely starting to sound like this has a disgruntled-former-employee slant.

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

I just do not get how people can look at these sorts of stories and STILL insist, with a straight face, that we need more guns, and continue to cling to their misinterpretation of the Second Amendment and claim that they have the right to own whatever sorts of guns they want without any regulation.

People are dying. We need to get our damn priorities in order.

Surely the best proof against the "we need more guns!" argument is that these mass shootings are occurring with alarming regularity in a country with lax gun laws, not in the countries with strict gun control.

"Good people with guns" don't save people from mass shooters. Making it really fucking hard for anybody to get guns saves people from mass shooters.

[david]

Would you feel safer working in an environment that allows people to conceal carry? I wouldn't. I read the usual comments such as "if someone had a gun the shooters would not have gotten away" etc. But the problem is a place like Inland Regional Center is a state funded agency. State funded agencies I'm pretty sure don't allow for conceal carry or any weapons on their employees for that matter. Plus it's a social service agency. It's just crazy.

[david]

The only alarming thing I saw was an interview with a security guard that works for the security company that IRC contracts to provide security.. and he stated they do not carry guns and they never received active shooter training. So yeah.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by david

Would you feel safer working in an environment that allows people to conceal carry? I wouldn't. I read the usual comments such as "if someone had a gun the shooters would not have gotten away" etc. But the problem is a place like Inland Regional Center is a state funded agency. State funded agencies I'm pretty sure don't allow for conceal carry or any weapons on their employees for that matter. Plus it's a social service agency. It's just crazy.

And people just ignore when these things still happen despite people being on the scene with concealed carry weapons, anyways.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I don't buy the argument angle.

You're telling me this guy got into an argument at the party, left, and just happened to have some friends hanging out with assault rifles and pre-made pipe bombs ready to roll? Doesn't sound very plausible

[david]

Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by david

Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.

That's why we need to arm everyone with assault rifles

[Axver]

Originally Posted by david

Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.

It's long since been established that in a chaotic situation such as this, people can have difficulty identifying culprits. A "good person with a gun" is by no means likely to take out the right person (or even if they have correctly identified the right person, to be able to disable them under such pressure), and once you have two sides firing, how is it even clear to other people - including other "good people with guns" - which side is the "good" one? It's an idiotic argument. We have people trained and employed to handle unusual, high pressure situations like this for a reason.

[Axver]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

That's why we need to arm everyone with assault rifles

I was thinking intercontinental ballistic missiles myself. Let good old mutual assured destruction keep the peace.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Worked for Khrushchev

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by Axver

I was thinking intercontinental ballistic missiles myself. Let good old mutual assured destruction keep the peace.

My friend at work suggested we just find a way to make every American's skin bulletproof. That ought to fix it.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

If this is ISIS related or inspired, I can only hope that the assault rifles were purchased legally so that we can finally send Wayne Lapierre to Guantanamo

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

I don't buy the argument angle.

You're telling me this guy got into an argument at the party, left, and just happened to have some friends hanging out with assault rifles and pre-made pipe bombs ready to roll? Doesn't sound very plausible

I also heard something about one of the shooters being there early to stake it out to "make sure a certain person was there" which sounds a lot more plausible and makes more sense with the "left and came back" theory.

[david]

Yeah, and they came back with explosives. It was premeditated.

[martha]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

That's why we need to arm everyone with assault rifles

Can I bling mine out? Pink sparkles?

[deep]

Trump will make America great again. His numbers will be going up.
I saw people standing on rooftops in Bengazi cheering this sttack.

[david]

Confirmed: One of the suspects was an employee of Department of Public Health who were using the facility at Inland Regional Center today.

[deep]

2 males and 1 female.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by martha

Can I bling mine out? Pink sparkles?

Sounds like the lady gun market has excellent growth potential.

Also, I'm torturing myself by flipping between coverage of this on Fox and MSNBC. Anyone who thinks these channels are the same is an idiot.