ongoing mass shootings thread

[bobsaget77]

Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

this is non guns related but if I ran a grocery store I would program the registers at the express to start adding an additional fee for every item over 10

We program our express registers to not accept any more than 10 items.
Once it reaches 10 items, it can no longer add items. Yet there's still douchebags that want to make multiple purchases.

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[bono_212]

Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

this is non guns related but if I ran a grocery store I would program the registers at the express to start adding an additional fee for every item over 10

Brilliant!

[Moonlit_Angel]

We only have one counter at where I work and all we sell are books and magazines, so we don't have the "10 items" thing. But I still very much approve of that idea for places that do .

Originally Posted by cobl04

Totally agree. I would be super depressed if that happened here.

Says something about the ingrained negative issues in the US when arming these people is a preferable solution to actually doing something.

Bingo. This is my thinking, too. It implies that people are just naturally expecting (or worse, itching for) a gunfight to happen. Self-fulfilling prophecy, in a way.

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

We only have one counter at where I work and all we sell are books and magazines, so we don't have the "10 items" thing. But I still very much approve of that idea for places that do .







Bingo. This is my thinking, too. It implies that people are just naturally expecting (or worse, itching for) a gunfight to happen. Self-fulfilling prophecy, in a way.

I don't want open carry, or even concealed carry for citizens. I do not see the point.

My point was since we won't ever pass laws to limit access to guns, that we should go the other route and have more professionals to protect us. Not citizens, not rent a cops

It's still a denial of where we are as a society, and denial means we still do nothing. I would love for us to close loop holes at guns shows, have more tests/restrictions for when and after you buy a gun (we have tests for our drivers and pilot license)

But we know that will not happen. So I'd just like to see more law enforcement at public places


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[Moonlit_Angel]

Oh, no, yeah, I know that's what you were getting at, BEAL . I was just continuing on with thoughts shared in other people's posts, speaking generally. Apologies for any confusion on that, though.

And I do understand your reasoning behind that suggestion, and in theory I could agree with it in a lot of ways for the time being. But in practice, I'm still wary of the idea. I still don't like the idea of armed guards at schools, or armed guards walking around your local supermarket, or things of that sort. '

I just still think there's too much opportunity for risk or things to go wrong there, too (would we vet all these people taking professional jobs of that sort so we're not blindsided by someone who's been hired and got on a power trip with all that authority?). And I still worry about what might happen if someone comes in and takes the guard's weapon, and things of that sort, too.

I honestly do believe eventually we will see real change on this issue. Or, I guess I should say, I still have hope we'll see real change on the issue. As I said before, I know that seems hard to believe sometimes given all the lack of any notable action thus far, but I do think eventually there will be enough of a shift to where people actually FINALLY fight back and change the laws. What we'll do until then to try and protect ourselves, I don't know.

But I do know that putting armed professionals in everyday locations, or, as others out there HAVE suggested, arming average citizens, is an answer or solution that I'm personally not entirely comfortable with.

[BoMac]

Not sure where to post this, so I'm putting it here.

The music is weird, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2TL...ature=youtu.be

[BoMac]

[Oregoropa]

20 possibly dead/injured San Bernardino, CA. Active shooter


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[PhilsFan]

It's tough to keep track of those California cities sometimes, for a second I was worried because my cousin lives in Santa Barbara. He has been living there since before the mass shooting that happened there within the last couple years.

[PhilsFan]

Reports of 1-3 shooters, white men, heavily armed, with body armor. Some stations saying 12 confirmed dead.

CNN just pulled away from a helicopter shot that appeared to be showing a large movement of authorities with their guns drawn approaching the building.

[Axver]

Oh for fuck's sake. America, stop this madness already.

[deep]

I have a friend that is an employee of the County of San Bernardino

I think she is ok, many families and friends will not be. Local reports are that 3 men wearing amour entered killed/ shot people then got in a black SUV and left. They are gone.
At this point, I believe this is correct. I won't speculate on number of casualties or wounded.

[corianderstem]

I feel confident in speculating that these shooters were Syrian refugees, as everyone knows they're our biggest threat.







what's the emoji for disgusted sarcasm?

[PhilsFan]

CNN is speaking with an employee at the facility, which works with the developmentally disabled, and she confirmed that last year they began training for active shooter situations and were prepared for situations like this.

At a facility for the developmentally disabled.

[BoMac]

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

[deep]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

It's tough to keep track of those California cities sometimes, for a second I was worried because my cousin lives in Santa Barbara. He has been living there since before the mass shooting that happened there within the last couple years.

Originally Posted by deep

I have a friend that is an employee of the County of San Bernardino

I think she is ok, many families and friends will not be. Local reports are that 3 men wearing amour entered killed/ shot people then got in a black SUV and left. They are gone.
At this point, I believe this is correct. I won't speculate on number of casualties or wounded.

I find it odd, that when these things happen we (and I include myself) tend to want to include ourselves in the story. These incidents are always 100% disgusting for the loved ones and friends of the victims. I always feel a sick inside knowing the extra pain these people will have to suffer with for the rest of their lives.

I have been to San Bernardino several times, I have never been to Paris, I have been to the WTC, when it was standing. And none of these things mean a damn thing to any of the families of the victims.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by deep

I find it odd, that when these things happen we (and I include myself) tend to want to include ourselves in the story. These incidents are always 100% discussing for the loved ones and friends of the victims. I always feel a sick inside knowing the extra pain these people will have to suffer with for the rest of their lives.

I have been to San Bernardino several times, I have never been to Paris, I have been to the WTC, when it was standing. And none of these things mean a damn thing to any of the families of the victims. I

My point was more about how often these things happen that it becomes hard to keep track of, not about inserting myself. I'm not part of this and am not pretending to be.

[mikal]

What's scary is that these fuckers are still on the loose. Hopefully they don't go ape somewhere else.

PS. For the record, this isn't terrorism because the killers are white.

[deep]

now I hear there was a banquet for county personnel going on, (if this is correct)
my friend my have been there. she has not responded to my text.

conflicted, knowing there are dead people, I don't want her daughter, to lose her mother, but surely a lot of people have lost their parents or children today.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

My point was more about how often these things happen that it becomes hard to keep track of, not about inserting myself. I'm not part of this and am not pretending to be.

Who cares if you were, though, anyways? People feel effected by things, they share how they feel. If other people want to be judgmental, let them.

I did catch your sarcasm, though.

But certainly we feel connected to these things because we read about them, we place ourselves in the shoes of those involved, and hell, sometimes we come away very frightened to know that these things can apparently happen anywhere.