ongoing mass shootings thread - Page 19

cobl04 · 10-07-2015, 11:14 PM

one who isn't Kenyan or in ISIS

Axver · 10-09-2015, 06:58 AM

So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.

Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons? Even if crazy people in Australia have found other weapons since 1996, they sure as shit haven't done a fraction as much damage as those with guns do.

anitram · 10-09-2015, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Axver

Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons?

It's also a strangely negative/pessimistic point of view to take for a nation that prides itself for its scrappy, we can do anything we want to and can all achieve the American dream line of thought.

LemonMelon · 10-09-2015, 08:01 AM

Hey, it had been almost 8 days since the last school shooting. That's a bit better than the 6 we were averaging. Everything's fine.

**Diemen** · 10-09-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Axver

So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.

Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons? Even if crazy people in Australia have found other weapons since 1996, they sure as shit haven't done a fraction as much damage as those with guns do.

Along similar lines, this whole "if we outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns" criminals-will-still-break-the-law argument is essentially an argument against laws of any sort.

-If we outlaw theft, thieves will still thieve!
-If we outlaw murder, murderers will still murder!
-If we outlaw child abuse, child abusers will still abuse children!

It's idiotic.

Besides the fact that no one is suggesting outlawing all guns! But any attempt at gun control legislation is treated as "they're coming for our guns!"

The Roseburg sheriff, with a straight face, argued before his state legislature earlier this year that background checks are a terrible idea that would do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns because they'd just break the law and find them another way. So basically, unless it is 100% effective we shouldn't even try, even if the proposed laws would make it more difficult for criminals to get guns?

Galeongirl · 10-09-2015, 12:17 PM

We just had a clip in a satiric news show from a dude, who apparently claims that if the Jews in WW2 had guns, the Holocaust would not have happened. Does anyone know the guy's name? That really had me flabbergasted... wtf.

nbelcik · 10-09-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Galeongirl

We just had a clip in a satiric news show from a dude, who apparently claims that if the Jews in WW2 had guns, the Holocaust would not have happened. Does anyone know the guy's name? That really had me flabbergasted... wtf.

Well Ben Carson just made that argument recently....

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BoMac · 10-09-2015, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Axver

So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.

Make that TWO shootings at a U.S. university in ONE day.

But who's counting?

Galeongirl · 10-09-2015, 01:28 PM

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Well Ben Carson just made that argument recently....

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Is he a person of any significant importance over there?

namkcuR · 10-09-2015, 01:40 PM

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Is he a person of any significant importance over there?

He's a Republican running for president, a pediatric neurosurgeon by trade, who's been polling #2 in the Republican field behind Donald Trump due to his 'outsider' status.

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Galeongirl · 10-09-2015, 01:47 PM

Oy... he's running for President?

Cripes, didn't expect that! Oh man...

bono_212 · 10-09-2015, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Galeongirl

Oy... he's running for President?

Cripes, didn't expect that! Oh man...

he's not just running...he's doing well.

womanfish · 10-09-2015, 02:27 PM

Another school shooting at Texas Southern. One dead, one injured. Second one today. USA, USA!!

prbiker15 · 10-09-2015, 02:40 PM

I wish there was a easier way to stop this.

corianderstem · 10-09-2015, 03:03 PM

Obama is in Seattle this afternoon after a stop in Roseburg. There are, apparently, some people in Roseburg who don't want him there, because a visit to the scene of the horror will of course mean he's "pushing his anti-gun agenda."

I may have actually yelled "OH FUCK YOU" at the radio when I heard that this morning.

I'm not proud of it. But I'm not sorry, either.

**Diemen** · 10-09-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by prbiker15

I wish there was a easier way to stop this.

The real shame here is that there is an easy way to drastically reduce it. Painfully easy, and a way that does not threaten anyone's liberty or take away their rights. Get rid of the lobbying arm of the NRA and there wouldn't be an "ongoing mass shootings thread" on this or any US-based forum.

It's mind boggling that one side of this debate has essentially looked at all these tragedies and the alarming rate at which they occur and said "this is acceptable collateral damage for our cause."

bono_212 · 10-09-2015, 05:20 PM

A cause that is so incredibly stupid and unnecessary.

Moonlit_Angel · 10-09-2015, 07:23 PM

Yeah, no need to be sorry, Cori. You have every right to yell that. Fuck these gun nuts, indeed. They're complete and total morons, and something needs to be done to push back against their BS rhetoric. Anyone in Roseburg protesting Obama's visit...just...ugh. How the recent shooting wasn't a reality check for them, I don't know.

Also, regarding Ben Carson, he's a massive dumbass and he really needs to just stop talking.

bono_212 · 10-09-2015, 07:47 PM

Edit: never mind.

BVS · 10-09-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

The real shame here is that there is an easy way to drastically reduce it. Painfully easy, and a way that does not threaten anyone's liberty or take away their rights. Get rid of the lobbying arm of the NRA and there wouldn't be an "ongoing mass shootings thread" on this or any US-based forum.

It's mind boggling that one side of this debate has essentially looked at all these tragedies and the alarming rate at which they occur and said "this is acceptable collateral damage for our cause."

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10-09-2015, 08:01 AM	#364
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,783 Local Time: 06:25 AM	Hey, it had been almost 8 days since the last school shooting. That's a bit better than the 6 we were averaging. Everything's fine.

10-09-2015, 02:27 PM	#373
womanfish Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: moons of Zooropa Posts: 7,805 Local Time: 01:25 PM	Another school shooting at Texas Southern. One dead, one injured. Second one today. USA, USA!!

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prbiker15 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 15,809 Local Time: 09:25 AM	I wish there was a easier way to stop this.

10-09-2015, 03:03 PM	#375
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 06:25 AM	Obama is in Seattle this afternoon after a stop in Roseburg. There are, apparently, some people in Roseburg who don't want him there, because a visit to the scene of the horror will of course mean he's "pushing his anti-gun agenda." I may have actually yelled "OH FUCK YOU" at the radio when I heard that this morning. I'm not proud of it. But I'm not sorry, either.

10-09-2015, 07:23 PM	#378
Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,774 Local Time: 08:25 AM	Yeah, no need to be sorry, Cori. You have every right to yell that. Fuck these gun nuts, indeed. They're complete and total morons, and something needs to be done to push back against their BS rhetoric. Anyone in Roseburg protesting Obama's visit...just...ugh. How the recent shooting wasn't a reality check for them, I don't know. Also, regarding Ben Carson, he's a massive dumbass and he really needs to just stop talking.