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What's interesting to me about the second part of your post is that I actually don't see the openly-gay-bathroom-cruising thing as something that you or any gay man should feel you have to explain away because I guess I don't think it's so bad, or perhaps I'm just used to hearing about it over the years. Even though sex in public bathrooms is about as appealing to me as eating placenta, as long as it's consensual I've never really thought twice about it. And I don't mean to be miss straight-girl-know-it-all-about-gay-sexuality but it's just that I'm older, I grew up around gay men, they didn't see it as dirty but rather thrilling and fun and who was I to judge. They felt empowered by their sexuality rather than ashamed and this was fascinating to me as someone who grew up in a very conservative, rigid, repressed environment. That's also probably why I have so much information about it...when people tell you "shocking" things and you keep a straight face and don't react or judge and instead just go, "really?! that's interesting," you continue to get a lot of juicy information. ![]() But of course I understand why you might feel a need to explain it away in today's homophobic, sexophobic, American culture. Maybe I shouldn't even really be a part of this discussion, I don't know. I just appreciate that the gay men I've known in my life are probably the main reason why I'm so open-minded about sexuality. In my own behavior, I'm still pretty conservative. But my viewpoint is very broad and I can't think of where else I got that from. So when I say that I know openly gay men who cruise bathrooms it isn't to make anyone ashamed or to bring negative attention to this aspect of gay culture, it's to maybe help people not be so uptight about what other people do sexually. But as you say, so many people can't have that conversation so maybe I should just shut up. |
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But sex in public bathrooms isn't just involving the two people is it? Are there other men in the bathroom, of whatever orientation, who really just want to use the bathroom and get on with their day? Would we be having this conversation if men and women were having sex in women's restrooms? Would that be okay?
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first, no need at all for you to shut up. please keep talking. you always add so much. and i just find it all so interesting -- i can see the freedom that comes with growing up outside of the normal boundaries of sexual interaction. most gay men over the age of 40 grew up where they weren't even acknowledged by mainstream society, so they made their own rules. and that can be quite empowering. and i'm sure it can be fun and thrilling, and you're right, so long as it's consensual and it doesn't affect other people, who cares? it also seems that i'm, too, a product of my time. while i can sit back and think of such anonymous encounters as possibly being hot, i've always grown up seeing myself as part of mainstream culture, and despite being gay, i still see (most) of the rules still applying to me. and so i'm far more prude about such stuff than many other people. it seems as if prudishness comes from your discomfort with not comforming to certain rules and expectations. now, this is not to say that prudery is bad, or that said rules and expectations are bad. i think it is to say that unchecked male sexuality probably needs rules and regulations to keep it healthy, and i think it is to say that there's nothing inherently wrong with whatever form of sexual expression you choose, just so long as you are willing to live with the consequences. |
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No, then it's turned into song lyrics: "I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom" Humpty Dance |
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Irvine I'm disappointed with you, you're getting desperate in your tactics as I win this discussion with clear headed logic, and I bench press 125% of my body weight without jerking or arching, so there ![]() In totality I think the male speices whether straight or gay is much much more promiscuous- and that is a genetic thing which is provable So take that again you bunch of intellectual schleps. ![]() dbs |
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Chris Matthews is hardly a social leftist, but i suppose anyone who was against the Iraq War has to be a hardcore liberal, so no matter what Matthews actually thinks and believes, you've put him in a box. so continue to believe it. and i disagree with Matthew's statement. [q]Irvine I'm disappointed with you, you're getting desperate in your tactics as I win this discussion with clear headed logic, and I bench press 125% of my body weight without jerking or arching, so there ![]() keep it up, sexyman. keep it up. for as long as you can. and without any of those little blue pills. that's cheating. ![]() [q]In totality I think the male speices whether straight or gay is much much more promiscuous- and that is a genetic thing which is provable[/q] we agree here as well. |
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![]() I'm kind of a prude by most straight standards. I enjoy "Sex & the City" but I cannot relate to it at all. |
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I would really like to see the guilty plea thrown out.
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If the legal system works properly the guilty plea will be thrown out. If the Judge goes with the political winds he will deny the request. |
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i hope it gets thrown out and he gets all indignent and stays. the late-night comics need more material. |
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If DeLay, Rove and Cheney can call themselves Christian
Then this guy has every right to call himself straight. Who is more credible? |
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ahhhh hello subective law. how you ruin thee.
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(AP)MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. --When tourists ask for the bathroom in the Minneapolis airport lately, it's usually not because they have to go.
__________________It's because they want to see the stall made famous by U.S. Sen. Larry Craig's arrest in a sex sting. "It's become a tourist attraction," said Karen Evans, information specialist at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. "People are taking pictures." Craig was arrested June 11 by a Minneapolis airport police officer. The Idaho Republican pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Craig has since said his guilty plea was a mistake. His request to withdraw the guilty plea will be heard Sept. 26, just four days before he has said he will step down from his Senate seat. Just 15 minutes into her shift on Friday, Evans said she had been asked directions to the new tourist attraction four times. Other airport workers field the same question. "It's by the Lottery shop, right next to the shoeshine shop," said newsstand worker Abdalla Said, adding he gets the question daily. The Royal Zino Shoeshine shop owner's grandson, Royal Zino, said it has been hectic. "People have been going inside, taking pictures of the stall, taking pictures outside the bathroom door -- man, it's been crazy," he said. On their way to Guatemala, Jon and Sally Westby of Minneapolis made a visit. "We had to just stop and check out the bathroom," Sally said. "In fact, it's Jon's second time -- he was here last week already |
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