Ohio predictions - Page 6

Strongbow · 03-04-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
i wonder how many Republicans are voting HRC in OH.

Hopefully not many since Hillary has a 10 point lead on McCain there, while Obama has been behind McCain recently except for the latest poll which has him up by 3. If Ohio is the deciding state again, right now it would be better for McCain to face Obama.

phanan · 03-04-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest

They haven't been at this point, nor should they be. We (Michigan) and Florida broke specific party rules and we should live with the consequences. And yes, I would be saying this if Obama had been the candidate on the ballots here and in FL, instead of Hillary.

Do you think the people in those states should have the option of holding another primary?

deep · 03-04-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Strongbow

Obama is doing well in these states except 3 of them, Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. All McCain would have to do is win those three and the election would go to McCain. McCain is currently slightly ahead in Pennsylvania, slightly behind in Ohio, and has opened up a 15 point lead on Obama in Florida.

Whats interesting is that Hillary Clinton does better than Obama against McCain in these particular states, states that the Republicans will likely have to win in order to win in November.

this is exactally how I have been seeing it all along

yes Obama can move a few per cent in the Red states

these are states the go 65 - 35 or 62 - 38

so 5 points wont matter

it really only comes down to about 3 states

and in those 3 states
Hillary is much stronger.

U2isthebest · 03-04-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by EdgeIsTooSexy
now i cant vote in the primary! why did huckabee have to go?

Because he didn't have a shot at capturing his party's nomination.

And thankfully so, I mean, he would only set equal rights back about 50 years.

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by EdgeIsTooSexy
now i cant vote in the primary! why did huckabee have to go?

Why not?

EdgeIsTooSexy · 03-04-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest

Because he didn't have a shot at capturing his party's nomination.

yeah ik i was hoping he could make it until april, oh well.

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by deep

since you are asking

I am fairly confident that many more GOPers have voted for Obama in these primaries than have voted for Hillary

and they will not vote Democratic in Nov.

i take the opposite view.

those Republicans who have been voting Obama, might well choose him over McCain in the general. they would not choose HRC.

those who are now voting HRC, are doing so in order to help McCain by giving him the weaker opponent.

deep · 03-04-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest
They haven't been at this point, nor should they be. We (Michigan) and Florida broke specific party rules and we should live with the consequences. And yes, I would be saying this if Obama had been the candidate on the ballots here and in FL, instead of Hillary.

so, just ceed those two states to McCain

the GOP thanks you.

U2isthebest · 03-04-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by phanan

Do you think the people in those states should have the option of holding another primary?

I'm torn. Since I live in Michigan, I would love to able to vote for Obama and actually have my vote count. However we did go against a party rule, one that wasn't even that unfair or illogical. If we could re-do the primary than yes, I would say I'd love to see that happen here and in Florida. However, if they just want to take the states as they stand now, that would be completely unfair.

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by deep

this is exactally how I have been seeing it all along

yes Obama can move a few per cent in the Red states

these are states the go 65 - 35 or 62 - 38

so 5 points wont matter

it really only comes down to about 3 states

and in those 3 states
Hillary is much stronger.

I disagree. I think there are states that went red last time that are close enough for Obama to have a shot in.

U2isthebest · 03-04-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by deep

so, just ceed those two states to McCain

the GOP thanks you.

What?

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest

What?

Obama can't win. Three states. "Hope! Change!" No substance. What was Obama thinking? Florida. Ohio. Florida. Ohio.

Or something.

deep · 03-04-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest

I'm torn. Since I live in Michigan, I would love to able to vote for Obama and actually have my vote count.

Did you vote in the Mich Primary?

Dreadsox · 03-04-2008, 09:08 PM

Any Republican that votes for Obama in the general, is not a Republican.....

U2isthebest · 03-04-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by deep

Did you vote in the Mich Primary?

No I didn't. Obama wasn't on the ballot here.

Strongbow · 03-04-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

I disagree. I think there are states that went red last time that are close enough for Obama to have a shot in.

Thats correct at the moment, there are about 5 or 6 of them. But provided McCain keeps Florida(15 point lead at the moment) and Ohio(behind by 3 at the moment), and picks up Pennsylvania(ahead by 1 at the moment), the loss of those 5 red states won't matter.

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dreadsox
Any Republican that votes for Obama in the general, is not a Republican.....

you've heard of Reagan Democrats ... though, given the nastiness of the Clinton campaign, they might just have damaged the eventual nominee enough that McCain might actually have a chance in November.

way to go, Bill and Hill.

it's always, always about you.

U2isthebest · 03-04-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

Obama can't win. Three states. "Hope! Change!" No substance. What was Obama thinking? Florida. Ohio. Florida. Ohio.

Or something.

I'm just wondering what the situations in Michigan and Florida's primary voting have to do with the general election since they aren't even counting towards the nomination at this point.

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Strongbow

Thats correct at the moment, there are about 5 or 6 of them. But provided McCain keeps Florida(15 point lead at the moment) and Ohio(behind by 3 at the moment), and picks up Pennsylvania(ahead by 1 at the moment), the loss of those 5 red states won't matter.

PA will go Democratic. That I can assure you.

LarryMullen's POPAngel · 03-04-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest

No I didn't. Obama wasn't on the ballot here.

You could have voted "undecided", like many other Democrats or Independents. That's what I did, despite knowing that it was a futile effort and Hillary would come out the winner.

I would like Michigan to hold another primary but, at this point, I'm not holding my breath. We (stupidly) broke rules.

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Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 01:10 PM	Any Republican that votes for Obama in the general, is not a Republican.....