Ohio predictions - Page 2

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2
If I lived in Texas, I'd swap sides for a day and vote/caucus for Hillary.

you see?

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by deep
GOPers have been voting Obama in all the open primaries

check the exit polling

which is great news for VA, CO, NM, etc.

BVS · 03-03-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2
If I lived in Texas, I'd swap sides for a day and vote/caucus for Hillary.

Hillary, the only uniter for the GOP...

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar

Hillary, the only uniter for the GOP...

it's a shattered party.

the only thing the Reagan coalition has in common is hatred for her.

it's not right. it's not fair. it's probably sexist. but it's reality.

deep · 03-03-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511

you see?

what?

you have power over teen age boys?

2861U2 · 03-03-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511

it's a shattered party.

the only thing the Reagan coalition has in common is hatred for her.

it's not right. it's not fair. it's probably sexist. but it's reality.

Well, speaking for myself at least, I don't "hate" the woman, and it has nothing to do with someone's sex. And in fairness, Democrats in Michigan were told to go vote for Romney.

2861U2 · 03-03-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by deep

what?

you have power over teen age boys?

Hey! I'm not a teenager anymore!

*shakes fist*

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by deep

what?

you have power over teen age boys?

no.

i just know why Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc., think that it's preferable to have Hillary over McCain.

and it's not just to sell books/outrage.

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2

Well, speaking for myself at least, I don't "hate" the woman, and it has nothing to do with someone's sex.

come on, now.

maybe not you, but on this very forum we've had people talking about how they won't vote for Hillary because she's a bitch.

U2isthebest · 03-03-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511

come on, now.

maybe not you, but on this very forum we've had people talking about how they won't vote for Hillary because she's a bitch.

I've decided not to vote for Obama because he is a Muslim!!!11212111111!1!

*this post written in my second language of sarcasm*

deep · 03-03-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511

come on, now.

maybe not you, but on this very forum we've had people talking about how they won't vote for Hillary because she's a bitch.

the strongest anti Hillary venom is from the Obama people

just like the strongest anti-McCain stuff is from the GOP / conservatives you mentioned

Irvine511 · 03-03-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by deep

the strongest anti Hillary venom is from the Obama people

just like the strongest anti-McCain stuff is from the GOP / conservatives you mentioned

just wait until the general.

then you'll see what real misogyny is waiting for Hillary.

they're just rubbing their hands -- and perhaps some are rubbing in that way, in some weird kind of mommy-spank-me fantasy -- and waiting for her to somehow make it to the general.

and then we'll hear what hate is all about.

yolland · 03-03-2008, 11:48 PM

The two Dem camps are often at each other's throats right now, period, and I don't see that ending until a clear winner in the delegates stakes emerges. It's stupid, because there's nothing to be gained at this point from squabbling about it...it's too late to decisively change most people's minds anyway.

I'd like to think Obama could evade a witch hunt in the general but I'm certainly not counting on it, I've seen too many election seasons come and go for that.

deep · 03-03-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by yolland
I'd like to think Obama could evade a witch hunt in the general but I'm certainly not counting on it, I've seen too many election seasons come and go for that.

Obama has had a fairly easy primary season

the other candidates were/ are at a loss to go on the offense

when they do/ or did
they get jumped on all over by the democrats

the general election will be different
it will only be about the swing voters
and these people won't circle the wagons around Obama
like his supporters have during the primaries

yolland · 03-04-2008, 12:02 AM

It's a gamble either way, I agree.

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by deep

Obama has had a fairly easy primary season

the other candidates were/ are at a loss to go on the offense

just another handout?

deep · 03-04-2008, 12:30 AM

W had a pretty easy primary season, too.

You may recall.

I don't use terms like hand out or leg up in political discussions

I will say they each have had their "people", followers beating down the opposition.

also the press seemed to favor W in 2000 like it is favoring Obama, now.

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 12:40 AM

while i don't agree that the press has somehow been easier on Obama,

if you are going to win in the general,

isn't it good to have the media in your corner?

deep · 03-04-2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
while i don't agree that the press has somehow been easier on Obama,

if you are going to win in the general,

isn't it good to have the media in your corner?

do you recall in 2000 how the press kept calling Gore stiff, and boring?

and W was the feel good guy?

Well,
it did get W close enough to steal the election in 2000

namkcuR · 03-04-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by deep

do you recall in 2000 how the press kept calling Gore stiff, and boring?

and W was the feel good guy?

Well,
it did get W close enough to steal the election in 2000

Your comparisons are ridiculous. Gore WAS pretty stiff in his campaign...he's a lot better at appearing comfortable in public NOW, but back then he WAS boring - but his policies were right.

As for GWB being the 'feel good guy' - please don't even try this. NO ONE ever called GWB charasmatic, NO ONE ever called GWB 'a movement', NO ONE ever accused him of being in the ranks of JFK and MLK in terms of oratory skill and ability to inspire. No one.

'I'd rather have a drink with GWB than Gore' is in a completey different universe from the things people are saying about Obama.

It's not even comprable and I'm surprised that you are saying such silly things.

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03-03-2008, 11:48 PM	#33
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 10:06 PM	The two Dem camps are often at each other's throats right now, period, and I don't see that ending until a clear winner in the delegates stakes emerges. It's stupid, because there's nothing to be gained at this point from squabbling about it...it's too late to decisively change most people's minds anyway. I'd like to think Obama could evade a witch hunt in the general but I'm certainly not counting on it, I've seen too many election seasons come and go for that.

03-04-2008, 12:02 AM	#35
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 10:06 PM	It's a gamble either way, I agree.

03-04-2008, 12:30 AM	#37
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,603 Local Time: 01:06 PM	W had a pretty easy primary season, too. You may recall. I don't use terms like hand out or leg up in political discussions I will say they each have had their "people", followers beating down the opposition. also the press seemed to favor W in 2000 like it is favoring Obama, now.

03-04-2008, 12:40 AM	#38
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,457 Local Time: 05:06 PM	while i don't agree that the press has somehow been easier on Obama, if you are going to win in the general, isn't it good to have the media in your corner?