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it's not going to happen
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I don't think it will either. Harry...take a deep breath when posting...everything will be OK
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Harry
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Hillary is in the DRIVER'S SEAT ! |
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It should not be ruled out completely. We have had President/VP tickets that were made up of former rivals. I believe that Reagan and Bush fit this bill.
The big question, of course, is whether they can work together at all. If they are not compatible, then it just might not work, no matter how much wishful thinking there is out there. |
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It MAY...I only say may...be an asset in a general election campaign. However, it would be very impractical in an actual administration. It would be a co-vice presidency vs. Obama. A former president and his spouse who felt entitled to the #1 spot are stuck in #2...that's more than your typical VP-Pres rivalry.
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i think it will happen.
i do. |
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Obama really needs her help.
I hope she is selfless enough to save him. |
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if there's one thing HRC is, it's selfless. she's a giver, that one. |
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it's still going to happen.
she'll get in there and do all the dirty work for him so he can glide all movie star-ish like JFK. and make no mistake. his acceptance speech will be soaring and beautiful, and the movement will continue apace. in other news, i am very pleased that McCain has pretty much given up on the base and is going to fight for the independents and moderates. that's a good thing for everyone. until he chooses Huck for VP. |
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wouldn't it be great if the far right and the far left just disliked the candidates so much that they stayed home in november and allowed the rational thinking americans to actually choose from two valid candidates?
that would be awesome. |
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In a perfect world.
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What an ignorant remark by Huckabee |
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At this rate, Harry is gonna have a heart attack before we even get to vote.
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though it would be nice to have Hillary do the dirty work, it seems Obama knows how to hit back, fast and hard and with dead-on aim:
[q] Well I want to be perfectly clear with George Bush and John McCain – if they want a debate about protecting the United States of America, that’s a debate I’m ready to win, because George Bush and John McCain have a lot to answer for ... in the Bush-McCain worldview, everyone who disagrees with their failed Iran policy is an appeaser. And back during his “No Surrender” tour, John McCain said anyone who wants to end the war in Iraq responsibly wants to surrender; he even said later on that he would be ok keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years, but yesterday he said our troops could be home by 2013. He offered the promise that America will win a victory, with no understanding that Iraq is fighting a civil war. Just like George Bush, his plan isn’t about winning, it’s about staying, and that’s why there will be a clear choice in November: fighting a war without end, or ending this war. Because we don’t need John McCain’s prediction about when the war will end – we need a plan to end it. [/q] bring. it. on. |
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It's refreshing, certainly, to see a Democrat who will take on the neo-cons.
He's ready, he's hyped and he's amped. Most of his heroes don't appear on no stamps. (With apologies to Public Enemy) |
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There is no chance, absolutely no chance that Hillary winds up on the ticket. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are rivals in a tough campaign, all politicians are big enough to forget that in the name of political expedience. The reason we will not see Hillary is that she brings NOTHING to the ticket. Obama is an inexperienced Northerner and despite her talk about 'experience,' she was the 2nd least experienced person in the entire Democratic primary. So she is an inexperienced Northerner w/all the baggage to go along with no crossover appeal. She mobilizes 20% of the population to come out and vote just to vote against her. The fact that women make up most Democratic voters is irrelevant, very few would crossover just because the nominee was not a woman. I know many young women(early 20s) at my school who find it offensive that people are saying they should vote for Hillary because they are women. Putting her on the ticket is general election suicide, pure and simple.
Obama is already a weak candidate, and this will become more apparent as we go along. The only chance of beating McCain, in what should be a slam dunk Democratic year for us, is for Obama to balance the ticket with a Southern or Western VP with alot of experience, preferably in foreign policy and national security. Here is the short list if he even has a prayer of winning. 1.)Bill Richardson-Western governor, has done a great job on economy, budget and crime issues in NM. Most importantly, he has experience as an ambassador, energy secretary, diplomat, and congressman. Also helps Obama w/Hispanics and the West is the fastest growing region, both for Democrats and the country as a whole. The ideal choice is Richardson. 2.)Sam Nunn-Southerner, former Senator, national security and arms control expert, well respected by the business community as well as by Democrats and Republicans across the board. 3.)Jim Webb-Similar to Nunn, but current, more energetic, actually an authentic combat veteran w/a kid in Iraq. Will take less shit from the other side than Richardson or Nunn. Helps Obama appeal to blue collar whites. Webb is exactly the kind of guy the Democrats want to present as the new face of the party. Also, Virginia is increasingly in play for the Democrats. |
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Webb seems to be a very good pick.
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