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Old 09-02-2008, 08:41 PM   #921
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I lurk on occasion, depending upon the topic. I just usually don't have anything to contribute. The regulars who I agree with do a damn fine job

So no other comment about the religious praying for a disaster? Isn't that hypocritical?

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Or maybe they'll just go back to saying "BLAME THE PARENTS!"


but in this case,

i think they would say

BLAME HIP-HOP!
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found this, thought I'd share

See. you fit right in..

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That's why you should post more here..it's a wacky wacky world out there and some of it is covered in FYM.
What ^ said..
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Isn't it interesting how much controversy this Palin selection is causing - look at the statistics - this thread was created August 14, 2008 and has had 8,587 views. Compare that with the Presidential thread created on July 28, 2008 which has 8,752 views. NOTHING McCain could have done would have created such a furor (especially on the "left") than this pick. We already have various conspiracy theories, as stupid and offensive as they are i.e. Palin's down's syndrome child is not really hers but her daughters...geez. These other outrageous "theories" about this being a ploy to bring in Romney or Lieberman are the most ridiculous I've ever heard - bringing in either would utterly destroy the momentum that John McCain has created with Palin. Are you people that naive that you actually cannot come to grasps with the fact that all of this is helping McCain. The only person who is responding the right way is Obama (thankfully!!!) - many of his "supporters" are frothing at the mouth about the pregnancy issue that it will backfire like nothing we've ever seen - they are playing right into the hands of the Republicans. I cannot believe how stupid some Democrats are (again, thankfully, Obama is not that stupid). Point in case: A political junkie friend of mine from New York who is a huge supporter of Obama called me yesterday. You could almost hear him salivating from the mouth about Palin's daughter being pregnant and how it would destroy her support from the Evangelicals - when I countered that it may just strengthen that support he got angry - we now know that it indeed has strengthened that support. Not only has the base been so offended by some on the left, the middle america "Mom" has been as well. This will be seen as an attack on Palin because she is a woman. I cannot stress enough what dangerous ground some Democrats are walking on. My only hope is that Obama refuses to stoop to their level. If he does not, there is still hope.
I frankly am one of those conservatives that is sick and tired of it... every time I turn on the TV. I don't know what democratic punk pundit they had on CNN tonight before the convention, but he was like... "this is a story that won't go away".

Such BS.
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I frankly am one of those conservatives that is sick and tired of it... every time I turn on the TV. I don't know what democratic punk pundit they had on CNN tonight before the convention, but he was like... "this is a story that won't go away".

Such BS.


erm, is it just Democrats who are talking about this? it seems it's the Republicans who are on TV "defending" the pick and explaining away the drip-drip-drip of strangeness.

and it's only been 72 hours.

did the McCain campaign not see this coming? i thought she was thoroughly vetted?

it is interesting to note, the McCain campaign is lashing out at CNN for simply — as retribution, they pulled McCain off Larry King tonight.
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I frankly am one of those conservatives that is sick and tired of it... every time I turn on the TV. I don't know what democratic punk pundit they had on CNN tonight before the convention, but he was like... "this is a story that won't go away".

Such BS.
"The media" is neither liberal nor conservative. It is, instead, a circus.

Cue Palin and her controversies, and you've basically given the circus exactly what they crave.
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Great point! I'd add Circuis with a capital "C".
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"The media" is neither liberal nor conservative. It is, instead, a circus.

Cue Palin and her controversies, and you've basically given the circus exactly what they crave.
Agree. Regardless of the pundits, the bloggers and forum posters have shocked me. I'm afraid the backlash is real. If my daughter and wife are shocked by the reaction, I'm sure other households like mine are having a similar reaction.

Oh no. Thompson is now recapping John McCain's POW experience. I will not be able to tolerate the spasms/convulsions that I'm sure every Obama supporter is going through now. How dare they bring up stuff that has nothing to do with qualifications for being president!

How many conservatives to do we have in FYM? 8?
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Agree. Regardless of the pundits, the bloggers and forum posters have shocked me. I'm afraid the backlash is real. If my daughter and wife are shocked by the reaction, I'm sure other households like mine are having a similar reaction.

Oh no. Thompson is now recapping John McCain's POW experience. I will not be able to tolerate the spasms/convulsions that I'm sure every Obama supporter is going through now. How dare they bring up stuff that has nothing to do with qualifications for being president!

How many conservatives to do we have in FYM? 8?


why don't you go read the Republican Convention thread instead of making self-righteous, self-serving judgments about others.
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why don't you go read the Republican Convention thread instead of making self-righteous, self-serving judgments about others.
It's not your place to tell him where he can and can't post.
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did you read my post in that thread? the post that came before MI's obnoxious accusation?
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How dare they bring up stuff that has nothing to do with qualifications for being president!
Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts.
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Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts.


will you stop with your distinctions, nuance, and understanding?

it keeps the Republicans from being able to view their opponents as communist sympathizers who eat aborted babies for breakfast.
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will you stop with your distinctions, nuance, and understanding?

it keeps the Republicans from being able to view their opponents as communist sympathizers who eat aborted babies for breakfast.
Sorry. I always forget to turn off the button in my mind that allows me to form logical, rational thoughts. It would make life so much easier if I did, though.
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did you read my post in that thread? the post that came before MI's obnoxious accusation?
Sure, but I don't understand what that has to do with anything.
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Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts
Laughable.

This should be in the Republican convention thread BTW, don't you think?

Exactly what experience does qualify someone for president? Because the life experiences of these folks, to me, seem the most important of all. It's who they are, and bears GREAT, GREAT influence on their decisions related to such matters as... let's say...



war.
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erm, is it just Democrats who are talking about this? it seems it's the Republicans who are on TV "defending" the pick and explaining away the drip-drip-drip of strangeness.

and it's only been 72 hours.

did the McCain campaign not see this coming? i thought she was thoroughly vetted?

it is interesting to note, the McCain campaign is lashing out at CNN for simply — as retribution, they pulled McCain off Larry King tonight.

I don't know that I'm fair and biased but she was clearly just trying to ask him a question.

"retribution" = ?
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Sure, but I don't understand what that has to do with anything.


firstly, it seems more appropriate to talk about the RNC in the RNC thread.

but in that thread i wrote a post specifically about McCain's POW experience, and then we get another sweeping conservative generalization that's inaccurate, and also offensive.

i was personally offended by MI's post, as if i'd mock the actual experience of being a POW -- which is entirely distinct from using the status of being a POW as both a reason in and of itself to be CIC and as a justification/explanation for everything in one's life.

these are distinctions that have been made, consistently, and at length, by the "Obama supporters" who've called out McCain using his POW status to talk about his 7 houses. and still, we get these histrionics.

it's frustrating and, yes, offensive.
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Laughable.

This should be in the Republican convention thread BTW, don't you think?

Exactly what experience does qualify someone for president? Because the life experiences of these folks, to me, seem the most important of all. It's who they are, and bears GREAT, GREAT influence on their decisions related to such matters as... let's say...



war.


i'll say it again. being a POW in and of itself is not a qualification for being president.
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