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Old 09-02-2008, 03:28 AM   #861
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Thanks for the clarification, Yolland.

In case you're interested, the blog I've been reading for the past few days is written by an Alaskan. I haven't had much of a chance to nose around the site other than that one comment thread, but according to some of the posters, it's offers good insight into the world of Alaskan politics.

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Old 09-02-2008, 05:27 AM   #862
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I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will soon speak up, he wouldn't want us to think he's a hypocrite!
Don't hold your breath...

His followers would be too embarassed to call him out on it, and his screener won't allow any dissenting thought...
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More gems from that article...
Heckuva job, John.
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That article you posted is fascinating, anitram.

It only re-affirms the belief of many that McCain has and will continue to sell out every principle he ever had in his bid to become president. It is pretty clear he had decided on Lieberman (who, btw, should just become a republican and get it over with already) a while ago, and caved to the evangelical right wing at the last second, picking Palin. He ended up sacrificing picking the person that HE thought was the best guy for the job in order to pick someone he KNOWS is far less qualified, to pander to the right wing.


It really is funny. McCain has built his whole image on being this guy who sticks to his guns & has a "maverick," higher principle----and yet he has been personally tearing that image down piece by piece over the last 4 years.

He's got to be royally pissed right now. I wonder if he'll drop her and end up going with Lieberman or Ridge. Of course, if he does drop her, it will be an obvious sign that he's caving for political reasons, and it may even look cruel. Of course, she could say she's dropping out to take care of her family, but that wouldn't be taken seriously after the excitement she's shown so far for the job.

Now that I think about it, I think he's really stuck with her.
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Takes pride in being a redneck and states that he DOESN'T WANT kids.
Nothing he said really surprises me - he's a 17 year-old-guy, I'm sure he's not the only one with these views.

That said, I can't figure out how any thinking person could conclude that the best thing to do is to have this boy committed to marriage. He's sure mature enough for it!

And John McCain's judgment is pathetic with respect to Palin.
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I find it funny how anytime a story like this breaks one of the first thing reporters do is look up their myspace page(remember the marine who threw the puppy).

Lesson 1: Kids always think about what you write on your MySpace/Facebook pages.
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his screener won't allow any dissenting thought...
Clearly you don't listen to his show...
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Clearly you don't listen to his show...
Well, since you do - is Sarah Palin responsible for her daughter getting knocked up? Is Mrs. Spears?
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ETA - I just checked the "feminist" group. It's all pro-life propaganda. Figures.

So is Sarah a maverick, independent thinkng woman or just status quo?

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Well, since you do - is Sarah Palin responsible for her daughter getting knocked up? Is Mrs. Spears?
I'm just about to head to my 8:00 class, so I'll respond later, but in a word, no.
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Clearly you don't listen to his show...
I do. And you are right, he does allow dissenting thought from time to time but he makes sure it's only from those that can't form a complete thought. He chooses those he can easily refute, or those that make the left look bad. Believe me it's very calculated.
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-I was just thinking the other day that I've never even met anyone from Alaska, nor known anyone who's lived there. Sometimes an insider's perspective, partisanship notwithstanding, can be invaluable in making sense of some political phenomenon or person in the context of the political subculture that produced them. Especially when it's as remote a place as Alaska.
A co-worker's brother used to live in Alaska. She told me Friday that after Palin took over as governor, everything went Republican and he left the state. Another co-worker's daughter still lives there. I'm sure my co-worker will have something to say today.
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if palin was an already known public figure the majority of these things would be no big deal. the fact that we don't know who she is is why all the so called red flags are now such a big deal. there are certainly tons of red flags in biden, obama and mccain's past history but they are all already known by the public. last week the democrats hailed a guy who drunkenly drove off a bridge and killed a woman as a hero. this week we're picking through a teenager's myspace page and blasting someone because her daughter got pregers. this woman is an unknown, so all her skeletons are "shocking." to blast her for her lack of experience and her stance on the issues is one thing... to give her hell because of the relatively tame red marks she has on her record is utterly ridiculous.
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blast her for her lack of experience and her stance on the issues is one thing... to give her hell because of the relatively tame red marks she has on her record is utterly ridiculous.
prolly one of your most honest and objective posts in eons.

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Believe me it's very calculated.

It is worse than the so-called "drive by media" and very few of the listeners catch on to that.
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Nothing he said really surprises me - he's a 17 year-old-guy, I'm sure he's not the only one with these views.

That said, I can't figure out how any thinking person could conclude that the best thing to do is to have this boy committed to marriage. He's sure mature enough for it!

And John McCain's judgment is pathetic with respect to Palin.
This was my earlier point...although not stated so well.

I do not understand the point of directing them to marriage. marriage is not going to make things better for these two TEENAGERS. Will it make things better in the eyes of voters? Possibly.

Gay marriage is bad, but making two teens get married because they are pregnant is OK? Makes perfect sense.

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I blame Harry Vest for this whole mess.

It's quite obvious that McCain's people scour Interference for campaign ideas (especially HV's FYM threads, because -- as everyone knows -- Harry Vest has his finger on the pulse of the typical US voter) and when they saw this thread it suddenly dawned on them: "Oh My God...McCain could win if he picks Palin!!!" So he did.

Damn you, Harry. It's all your fault!
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I blame Harry Vest for this whole mess.

It's quite obvious that McCain's people scour Interference for campaign ideas (especially HV's FYM threads, because -- as everyone knows -- Harry Vest has his finger on the pulse of the typical US voter) and when they saw this thread it suddenly dawned on them: "Oh My God...McCain could win if he picks Palin!!!" So he did.

Damn you, Harry. It's all your fault!
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if palin was an already known public figure the majority of these things would be no big deal. the fact that we don't know who she is is why all the so called red flags are now such a big deal. there are certainly tons of red flags in biden, obama and mccain's past history but they are all already known by the public.
That's true. Should the Obama pastor crap have happened in September or October, it could've been crushing. Now, it's mostly forgotten by everyone except those who probably wouldn't have voted for him anyway. The fact that little things like these are perceived as big deals simply because Palin is a new face is perhaps yet another example of why she was such a poor choice. Had he announced her as his choice in, say, June, there would have been plenty of time for it all to have blown over by Election Day. Now, she has two months---and during all of that time, the investigation will be going on, and I'm sure a few more skeletons will come out, as well. Far too close to the big day to bring in somebody who's got a fresh history for mining.

Like I said----Just wait until the pre-Miss Wasilla nude pictures come out.
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to blast her for her lack of experience and her stance on the issues is one thing... to give her hell because of the relatively tame red marks she has on her record is utterly ridiculous.


i agree.

but i think most of us are blasting McCain, not Palin and certainly not her poor daughter.
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prolly one of your most honest and objective posts in eons.

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i'd like to think my posts calling mitt romney an utter douchebag were pretty honest and objective as well.
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