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Old 09-06-2007, 02:10 PM   #801
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Incorrect. That was an expression of great joy that Obama may not run again.

If you want to talk about meaningless posts, I'm sure I could find a few that you have made.
And I could find quite a few of yours that have meanings that are truly scary.
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Your statement implied that most of the Republican party is racist. I would like it if you retracted that statement.
That's a logical fallicy. Read his posts again. He said that most racists are Republicans.
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Your statement implied that most of the Republican party is racist. I would like it if you retracted that statement.
Read it again...
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He said that most racists are Republicans.
No, he didn't.

"and most of the people who would "never vote for a black man" are the people who make up the base of the Republican Party."

"Racists are the base of the Republican party." The base of the Republican party are racists. That's what it says, and I find it upsetting that it is going unchallenged.
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To be fair, I also read "make up the base of the Republican Party" as implying something a bit more sweeping than saying, e.g., "most 'people who would never vote for a black man' wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway."

But we're starting to slide into "Am not!" "Are too!" territory here.
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Incorrect. That was an expression of great joy that Obama may not run again.
Are you that scared of him?
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I know that far, far too many Americans like him only because he is new, young and black. It's the image thing that you are constantly accusing the Republican party of falling into, despite the fact that I can't think of a bigger example of such image-adoration than Obama. That is what scares me, and I know that in 4 or 8 or 12 or however many years, he might actually get elected.
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But we're starting to slide into "Am not!" "Are too!" territory here.


we are.

but when you've got nothing else to offer a conversation -- i have yet to read a word about why it's an "indisputable fact" that Obama brings "absolutely nothing" to a ticket -- this is what happens.

are most Republicans racist? no.

are most Racist republicans? yes.

are most of these racists Republicans what the GOP refers to as it's "base"? yes indeed.

you have Trent Lott.

you have George Allen.

you have Jessie Helms.

you had Strom Thurmond.


and you gave us ads like this (black men are going to fuck white women!):



and this (black men are going to rape white women!):

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despite the fact that I can't think of a bigger example of such image-adoration than Obama.


that's better than Thompson, who only has voice-adoration going on.

(and just wait until we start to hear about the places his penis has been)
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I know that far, far too many Americans like him only because he is new, young and black. It's the image thing that you are constantly accusing the Republican party of falling into, despite the fact that I can't think of a bigger example of such image-adoration than Obama. That is what scares me, and I know that in 4 or 8 or 12 or however many years, he might actually get elected.
And this makes you express great joy of him not running?

How do you know that far too many Americans like him only because he is new, young, and black? What is this "fact" based on?
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you have Trent Lott.

you have George Allen.

you have Jessie Helms.

you had Strom Thurmond.


and you gave us ads like this (black men are going to fuck white women!):
If you want to make this a debate about the party of racists, you better look at the other side as well, where...

you have Senator Byrd

you have Al Gore Sr.

you have Dick Gephardt

you have Jesse Jackson

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock010603.asp



I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.
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I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.
That was never stated.
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How do you know that far too many Americans like him only because he is new, young, and black?
Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
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That was never stated.
I never said it was.
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Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
You're starting to sound like Laura Ingraham now, which, if you have seen my posts, isn't a compliment.

And this post now hints at a bit of racism.
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If you want to make this a debate about the party of racists, you better look at the other side as well, where...

you have Senator Byrd

you have Al Gore Sr.

you have Dick Gephardt

you have Jesse Jackson

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock010603.asp



I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.


it's all about policies, sweetpea. but, sure, i'll play along with your muckraking article that was written to make people like you feel better after the Trent Lott fiasco. there's virtually no substance there, just some gaffs and some ancient history. the fact remains about Affirmative Action and, yes, Immigration. the racists love the R's because the party's stances on these two issues are closest to their own. the only thing in this article are examples of Democrats using race to bait the opponent. it's a political tactic. and it works. you know why? because most minorities think the Republicans are a bunch of racists. why do you think that the vast, vast majority of black people vote Democratic? along with Latinos, Jews, gays, etc.?

firstly, Byrd is a leftover Dixiecrat -- the people who became, you guessed it, REPUBLICANS after LBJ rammed through the Civil Rights Act in 1964. ALL the southern racists went to the GOP, and what did LBJ himself say afterwards? "we've lost the south for a generation."

you're going to bring up AL GORE SR!?!?! gee, why not talk about the policies of the Whigs?

Gephardt? where?

and Jessie Jackson? yes, yes, we've all heard of "Hymie-town." but what specifically racist policies has Jackson endorced?
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Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.


um, wow.

you freak out because i say that much of the Republican base is racist, and then you call black college kids ignorant, uninformed, and apolitical?

i'd report this post, but you're going to catch enough hell for it anyway.
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Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
Read your post. Very carefully. Now there are so many things I can say about this post, but I will refrain.

But do this. Read and insert 'white' and 'Rudy', or 'Mormon' and 'Romney' and tell me how it is any different.
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um, wow.

you freak out because i say that much of the Republican base is racist, and then you call black college kids ignorant, uninformed, and apolitical?

Ok, fair enough. Allow me to correct it, then.

Ask most college students (especially black ones) who don't know anything about politics who they are supporting. When they say Obama, ask them why.

Actually, you dont have to do that. I've encountered plenty of them here at school, so take my word for it. People don't care. They like Obama because his black. There's no getting around it.
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Ask most college students (especially black ones) who don't know anything about politics who they are supporting.
If they don't know anything about politics, what does race have to do with it?
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