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Old 08-19-2007, 07:56 PM   #681
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Good boy, dbs, you caught me. While my original point was between the people and not necessarily those leading the cause, I misspoke.

Still, I think it would be awfully naive of you to think that terrorists are just a huge collective that blows up their own. But I'm sure it's simpler for you to pretend they all aren't human and that none of them have families.

Now I suppose it's your turn to twist that around so that I'm sympathetic to terrorists. Go ahead. Surprise me.
Well you can call me names if that makes you feel superior, go ahead.
Maybe you may want to think before you post in the future.

And if you want to claim that terrorists are humane, that's your preogative.
I see terrorists who mass murder innocents as subhuman, and I'm sure we differ there.

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Old 08-19-2007, 08:00 PM   #682
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Well you can call me names if that makes you feel superior, go ahead.
Maybe you may want to think before you post in the future.
Exactly where did I call you names?
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It's horrible quality but this is cool- footage of Senator Obama on his hs basketball team. He's #23 in the blue uniform

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he missed the free throw
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did anybody watch the debate? according to the ABC news poll, the majority of voters believed that Dennis won
http://abcnews.go.com/politics
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Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee said his second-place finish at the Ames straw poll in Iowa last weekend shows he has developed "real momentum" in the Republican presidential race, especially because his campaign turned out its supporters on a shoestring budget, without TV ads or free bus rides.

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Huckabee, "The thing, and this will really rankle some of my Republican colleagues: Bill Clinton and Hillary went through some horrible experiences in their marriage because of some of the reckless behavior that he has admitted he had. I am not defending him on that, it's indefensible.

"But they kept their marriage together. And a lot of the Republicans who have condemned them and talk about their platform of family values, interestingly, didn't keep their own families together.
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did anybody watch the debate? according to the ABC news poll, the majority of voters believed that Dennis won
http://abcnews.go.com/politics
I watched some of it. I loved when he answered he prayer question by saying he had been praying the whole time that George would call on him.
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Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee said his second-place finish at the Ames straw poll in Iowa last weekend shows he has developed "real momentum" in the Republican presidential race, especially because his campaign turned out its supporters on a shoestring budget, without TV ads or free bus rides.



and Huckabee is absolutley right.

HRC has got "family values" in droves over Rudy. and Thompson. and McCain. and Gingrich. and Rush. and ... gosh, it's like shooting fish in a barrell.

good for Huckabee. and there go his Veep chances.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:56 PM   #689
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Interesting point made by Karl Rove about Hillary:

"She enters the general election campaign with the highest negatives of any candidate in the history of the Gallup poll. It just says people have made an opinion about her. It's hard to change opinions once you've been a high-profile person in the public eye, as she has for 16 or 17 years."

I hadn't considered that before. So true.
Uhhh, you realize that the New York Times debunked these lies, which Karl Rove was spreading last week, right?



Don't take my word for it, take the New York Times:

"When Karl Rove said yesterday that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s unfavorable rating was in the "high 40s," maybe he hadn’t seen the most recent CBS News poll. And when he said no one had been elected with negatives as high as hers, he had apparently forgotten some recent history.

The CBS News poll, conducted from Aug. 8 to Aug. 12, showed Mrs. Clinton’s unfavorable rating at 39 percent. That number has been falling bit by bit since its high mark of 46 percent in April.

That 46 percent was the highest negative rating measured by The New York Times and CBS News since the two news organizations began polling about Mrs. Clinton in 1992.

Over the last few months as her negative ratings have fallen, her positive ratings have fluctuated, with the most recent poll showing that 41 percent of voters have a favorable view of her. Mr. Rove’s point was this: "There’s nobody who has ever won the presidency who started out in that kind of position."

In fact, Mrs. Clinton’s husband was in that very position and did win. And Mrs. Clinton’s numbers are better than his were at this point in his first campaign for the White House.

In April 1992, only 26 percent of voters had a favorable view of Bill Clinton, while 40 percent viewed him unfavorably, according to a Times/CBS poll. By June 1992, his favorables had plunged further, so that only 16 percent had a favorable opinion, with 40 percent still unfavorable.

After Mr. Clinton won the nomination and after his convention, his favorable rating began to rise. By October 1992, his ratings had become about even, with 34 percent favorable and 35 percent unfavorable."
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.........and Clinton was elected.
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Latest Rasmussen poll: "Rasmussen Reports has Hillary’s unfavorable rating at 54%, with a 45% favorable rating."

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index....proval_rating/
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Latest Rasmussen poll: "Rasmussen Reports has Hillary’s unfavorable rating at 54%, with a 45% favorable rating."

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index....proval_rating/
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HRC has got "family values" in droves
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Sister Obama may disagree with you, however she could be referring to Rudy-I'm not sure.

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Latest Rasmussen poll: "Rasmussen Reports has Hillary’s unfavorable rating at 54%, with a 45% favorable rating."

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index....proval_rating/

Yeah, that's interesting. I guess Rudy is in the same boat...unfavorable rating at 52%, with a 43% favorable rating.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ntial_election
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Sister Obama may disagree with you, however she could be referring to Rudy-I'm not sure.

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i think Michelle Obama would agree that, head-to-head, HRC has got it going on in the FV department in comparison to Rudy.

but i also don't think she was slamming HRC. i really don't. nor do i think it was a Rudy slam.

she's one to watch, too. she's quite impressive.

you realize, Diamond, that your (totally justified) irritation with those who would hold Romeny's Mormonism against him is nearly totally undercut when you reference sexist, misogynist material like witches -- we're just a letter away from what it seems like you really want to say.

the whole "people who live in glass houses" thing ...
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Yeah, that's interesting. I guess Rudy is in the same boat...unfavorable rating at 52%, with a 43% favorable rating.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ntial_election
Huh

I think you read it backwards. He has 52% favorable and 43% unfavorable...
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but i also don't think she was slamming HRC. i really don't. nor do i think it was a Rudy slam.

she's one to watch, too. she's quite impressive.

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umm, she is an impressive lady, that is certain.
if i were to guess she was inferring HRC indirectly, and later could use Rudy as a fall guy.

Let's keep the good looking guy out of it, the one who has the rock solid looks marriage and attitude.

How could you not say hubba hubba to this:
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i can't see the pick, but i'm assuming it's one of Mitt, so i'll just counter with this:



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Huh

I think you read it backwards. He has 52% favorable and 43% unfavorable...
You're right, I did read it backwards.
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not surprisingly, the media is screwing over kucinich again. abc is trying to act like he wasn't even there at the debate. look at what they've done:

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* Congressman Kucinich was apparently deliberately cropped out
of a "Politics Page" photo of the candidates.
* Sometime Monday afternoon, after Congressman Kucinich took a
commanding lead in ABC's own on-line "Who won the Democratic
debate" survey, the survey was dropped from prominence on the
website.
* ABC News has not officially reported the results of its online
survey.
* After the results of that survey showed Congressman Kucinich
winning handily, ABC News, sometime Monday afternoon, replaced
the original survey with a second survey asking "Who is winning
the Democratic debate?"
* During the early voting Monday afternoon and evening, U.S.
Senator Barack Obama was in the lead. By sometime late Monday or
early Tuesday morning, Congressman Kucinich regained the lead by
a wide margin in this second survey.
* Sometime Tuesday morning, ABC News apparently dropped the
second survey from prominence or killed it entirely.
* AND, as every viewer of the nationally televised Sunday
Presidential forum is aware, Congressman Kucinich was not given
an opportunity to answer a question from moderator George
Stephanopoulos until 28 minutes into the program.
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