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Old 06-16-2007, 01:20 PM   #381
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I'm watching The Hunt For Red October...with the future Republican nominee for President


I do love this movie though They cut SO much out of it on TV Some of my favorite scenes too. Stupid censors.


Aaaaanyway, I do think Fred Thompson will be the Republican nominee. He rallies the conservative base, and republicans know that they need their base to be active for GOTV in the general election...as we saw in '06 because they weren't motivated or voting.
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He was good in Law & Order...
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:46 AM   #383
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America's Creepiest Candidates
David A. Andelman, 06.18.07

When it comes to the creepiest candidates or potential candidates for America's presidential sweepstakes, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich takes the prize, but Hillary Clinton isn't far behind.

Some 19% of the population polled in the June edition of the Forbes '08 Tracker, among the most unconventional polls in this year's presidential sweepstakes, call Gingrich creepy. He turns out to be the top Republican in this category among six who reached the baseline of 10% or more recognition in our sample who were questioned.

The creepiest Democrats turns out to be a dead heat--between Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. But here, the split is dramatically along gender lines. Some 20% of all the men find Hillary creepy, while only 10% of all women. For Gore it's 18% and 11%, respectively.


Neither Forbes.com nor E-Poll, the California market research company that is conducting the polling, defines any of the 46 attributes on which it polls its sample population--the same traits it has used to select high-level spokespeople for advertising campaigns for more than a decade. Politics, along with selling cars, television shows or any other product has become a complex process.

The 46 attributes help define trends and key drivers of what moves a person to respond or to react to the messaging and the messenger. In this case, the candidate's name is given to the polled population, which is then asked to match whichever of the attributes it believes is appropriate for the candidate in question.

More than three times as many men than women find Sen. Joseph Biden creepy--10% vs. 3%, which could be attributed to the fact that as we reported last month, 23% of all women polled found him the most handsome candidate, vs. just 5% of the men.

The bottom of the list is equally interesting. Fred Thompson, who's just beginning to stick his toe in the presidential waters, turns out to be the least creepy--only 2% of those polled cite him as such. That could be a tribute to the years he's been dispensing folksy good common sense as the New York District Attorney on Law & Order. No respectable Hollywood script writer would put creepy words into that mouth.

New York's real-life mayor, Mike Bloomberg, is creepy to only 4% of those polled. That could be a tribute to the fact that only 23% of the national sample express awareness of him, despite his having held office in what is undoubtedly America's most visible city for more than five years, not to mention having his own Web site, as well as a multibillion-dollar media empire including a global news agency, radio and television network, and book publishing and financial data operation all bearing his name--Bloomberg.

Bloomberg, who ran as a Republican for mayor of Democrat-dominated New York, is for the moment an undeclared candidate. But he has hinted fairly broadly that if he does run it will likely be as an Independent. And with a billion dollars of his own money he's said to be prepared to commit to the effort, he could be expected to jump substantially in national awareness.

Bloomberg's tied at a 4% rating on the Democratic side with Barack Obama and Christopher Dodd who, incidentally, no women find to be creepy. That could, of course, be a tribute in part to the fact that only 12% of those polled even had any idea who Sen. Dodd is.
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^ that's just sad.
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That was actually pretty good for presidential humor...
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I hope Hillary didnt feel no ways tired after filming that.
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i wasn't terribly pleased with her choice of campaign song.

but the ad was cute. as political humor goes, not bad.
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I know! You just can't help but like him. . .

So what was the theme song?
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That Sopranos spoof is cute and clever-and Bill looks hot in that shirt in a suburban Dad going bowling sort of way.
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McCain seems to be in a lot of trouble

I read a survey on Free Republic, a bellwether of conservative opinion if ever there was one, a few days ago, and only a couple of percent supported him.

Still, it's early days yet.
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Yeah, sadly I think McCain is done as a serious candidate. I like his toughness, but I suppose his age is starting to show. If the 2007 McCain was the McCain we saw in 2000, I have no doubt he would be far ahead in the GOP race.
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Isn't he off saving the rainforests?
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Yeah, sadly I think McCain is done as a serious candidate. I like his toughness, but I suppose his age is starting to show. If the 2007 McCain was the McCain we saw in 2000, I have no doubt he would be far ahead in the GOP race.

The age factor could be an issue right enough. Of course, Reagan was relatively old even back in 1980, but Reagan looked very young for his age. I have the impression the electorate may look towards a middle aged candidate, but also one with experience, and that might point towards Clinton or Giuliani.
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Yeah, sadly I think McCain is done as a serious candidate. I like his toughness, but I suppose his age is starting to show. If the 2007 McCain was the McCain we saw in 2000, I have no doubt he would be far ahead in the GOP race.
Do you really think so? I was always under the impression that the Republican "base" didn't care much for him.

Isn't it more that he's losing his luster with the wider public as well as the Republican base?
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