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Old 08-29-2012, 06:41 PM   #741
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Clearly the "food stamps as reparations" messaging by the Romney campaign is getting through to some voters.
Which ones precisely?
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Which ones precisely?
On a mobile (hurtling down the east coast between NYC and DC the other awful elites on the hated, socialist Acela), but here's a good jumping off point for you:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...ml?ir=Politics
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On a mobile (hurtling down the east coast between NYC and DC the other awful elites on the hated, socialist Acela), but here's a good jumping off point for you:

Mitt Romney Suggests Obama Welfare Waivers Are A Tactic To 'Shore Up His Base'
Well, considering that white voters are essentially financing black voters inability and/or unwillingness to get jobs, it's not necessarily an entirely unreasonable point for the Romney campaign to make.

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Or, to spell it out even more clearly:

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Well, considering that white voters are essentially financing black voters inability and/or unwillingness to get jobs, it's not necessarily an entirely unreasonable point for the Romney campaign to make.


Yes, exactly. You've stated the mindset very well. And it's a great rebuttal to people who say that the Tea Party isn't about race or the GOP doesn't use dog whistles and coded language.

Clearly, even a European such as yourself gets the message.
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Here it is in context.



First notice what isn't said by the Speaker: "Boehner Says Out Loud He Hopes Blacks and Latinos 'Won't Show Up' This Election." He never says he "hopes" minorites won't show up.

Second, what is wrong with what he says? Sounds like an honest appraisal of past voting trends and an outreach to those groups hit hardest by this president's policies.
Fair point. Thanks for the context.


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the only answer this president has
That's woefully and willfully untrue. Making hyperbolic statements like that hardly puts you in a position to cry foul about others supposed untruthfulness.
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Yes, exactly. You've stated the mindset very well. And it's a great rebuttal to people who say that the Tea Party isn't about race or the GOP doesn't use dog whistles and coded language.

Clearly, even a European such as yourself gets the message.
Way I see it, the Democrats want to make this election about race and base social issues. So far, sadly, that tactic is working ok for them.

What would be an interesting advert for the Romney/Ryan campaign - put out an advert saying "does Obama hate blacks?" and then put up a few graphs of the increasing black unemployment rate, the increasing poverty levels and increasing debt, under his regime, etc.

That would be interesting.
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You see?
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You see?
What I am supposed to see?
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those lazy black blah people
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Are you black?
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What I am supposed to see?
That some people are hard working, real Americans.

And some people aren't.
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That some people are hard working, real Americans.

And some people aren't.
And the demographic that's leaching off the state should be given a kick up the arse now and again, no?
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Well, considering that white voters are essentially financing black voters inability and/or unwillingness to get jobs, it's not necessarily an entirely unreasonable point for the Romney campaign to make.
You're good at this caricature thing.
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And the demographic that's leaching off the state should be given a kick up the arse now and again, no?

That's been the plan since 1964.
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You're good at this caricature thing.
I suppose that it's preferable that the black unemployment rate remains at approximately double the white unemployment rate for the rest of human history in the US.

I suppose that anyone that comes up with a plan to improve the differential, still less draws attention to it, is engaging in caricaturing, stereotyping and even worse.

I am in favour of addressing the unacceptably high level of black American unemployment - and the only thing that will do so, in the long run, is private sector entrepreneurialism and capitalism.

Our side deal in facts. Yours in appeals to emotionalism. That's the stark difference between the left and the right - your side deals in a culture of complaint, ours in solutions.
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Interesting how skin color relates to how lazy you are
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That's been the plan since 1964.
How well has it worked?
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This has a lot more to do with class than it does with race. Or, at least, with what the cause is.
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Really, most of the problems that afflict the African-American community can be reduced to simple laziness, sho' 'nuff.
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