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Old 01-31-2011, 03:58 AM   #661
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a friend of mine on facebook tagged me in this photo and included the following comment.



heh heh heh.
yeah, those figures aren't just misleading, it's plain wrong. unless those were estimates, which they're not, how could they determine the unemployment rate for 2011 in december 2010?

this is why i hate graphs.
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:43 AM   #662
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a mate who just got back from America posted it on facebook. i wanted to post it on interference because i was curious to see what people would think. i have absolutely zero understanding of American politics. i don't mean to start something.

to show my sincere lack of understanding, Angus Peef said "central PA has a lot of conservative idiots". now the way i understand the word conservative, that is a mindboggling contradiction because if i were to describe someone as "conservative" then you can bet your life savings that they wouldn't have a political bumper sticker on their car.
Bumper Sticker Politics is a big thing in the US. You pretty much never see it in Australia (or anywhere else really?), but jump on a US highway, and if you were getting a dollar for every political bumper sticker you see - whether its "humorous"/antagonistic stuff like this or simple campaign stickers (Obama '08, Bush/Cheney '04), or specific issue based stuff - you'd be able to cover the cost of your fuel from one side of the US to the other. Easily.
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little made me feel more amused in the us than seeing palin/mccain* bumper stickers after the election, and also a whole bunch of stupid w - still the president ones. doesn't work when the new guy was already inaugurated. actually, fuck it, the funniest one i saw was for ron paul.

most people with conservative bumper stickers turned out to be extremely ugly and/or always drove with their mouths open.


*=yes, in that order.
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yeah, i never did political bumper stickers for that reason. by the time it's on your car the election's over and now you look stupid. though it is a funny way to find out just how old someone's car is - if they still have a 2004 political sticker on their car, haha your car's like...old and stuff.
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I hate my country way too often.
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Judge says Obama healthcare overhaul unconstitutional



anyone want to speculate how

this Supreme Court will vote?

I see a 5-4 vote
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Judge says Obama healthcare overhaul unconstitutional



anyone want to speculate how

this Supreme Court will vote?

I see a 5-4 vote
I didn't read which part(s) was ruled unconstitutional, but there are a lot of precedents for the mandatory insurance purchasing.

Still, precedents be damned with this current set of Supremes.
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It is the mandatory buying of a service from a private company

and we have Thomas wife being on the payroll of an anti-Obama Care group, and Scalia with close associations to them. They should recuse themselves, but only the Judges themselves decide if they have a conflict.

Group says 2 justices may have conflict of interest in election case - CNN
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It is the mandatory buying of a service from a private company

and we have Thomas wife being on the payroll of an anti-Obama Care group, and Scalia with close associations to them. They should recuse themselves, but only the Judges themselves decide if they have a conflict.

Group says 2 justices may have conflict of interest in election case - CNN


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It could bring a true public option, eventually.
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It could bring a true public option, eventually.
True.


Medicare for all--Why not just expand an existing program?
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Hillary is looking better for the V P slot in 2012

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Hillary is looking better for the V P slot in 2012

Totally fake picture.

(There aren't enough gold chains around his neck. )
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if Obama wins in 2012
there is now a back up plan

FB + Twitter + flash mobs = regime change
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if Obama wins in 2012
there is now a back up plan

FB + Twitter + flash mobs = regime change
That sounds inspiring, but it'd just end up with them coalescing around coarse, hysterical populist demagogues who'd provoke them into self-defeating bouts of destructive rage. It's unfortunate, because their system admittedly is increasingly plutocratic and unjust, but the sad truth is Americans aren't ready for democracy.
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If the individual mandate ends up sinking the law (via Supreme Court decision), then God help America.

Although the uninformed think the mandate is some kind of socialist gov't takeover, it is actually throwing a bone to the insurance companies. If anything, be concerned that the insurance co. money is wayyyy too deep into politicians' pockets for Washington to ever craft something resembling a public option for healthcare.

Reading the judge's opinion, though, I feel sympathetic for him. He basically says, "Yeah, I feel really shitty about this guys, but I gotta respect the Constitution."
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I don't know if this has appeared anywhere in the Blue Crack yet:

Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798 - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes
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Activist judges!!!!!

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Judge says Obama healthcare overhaul unconstitutional



anyone want to speculate how

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I see a 5-4 vote
i saw some comments on facebook about this. one said obama is unconstitutional.

i mean, where do you go with stupidity like that?
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