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Old 11-23-2009, 07:05 PM   #81
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*** No pain, no gain? In a way, last week epitomized President Obama’s 10 months in office. There was lots of seemingly short-term pain -- members of Congress calling for his Treasury secretary to resign, more P.R. snafus over the stimulus, the chattering class criticizing his Asia trip, and his approval rating dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup’s poll. But there also was long-term gain -- the Senate on Saturday moving one step closer to passing health-care reform and a growing economic consensus, via the New York Times, that the stimulus is working despite all the P.R. headaches it has caused. Indeed, this short-term pain/long-term gain for Team Obama occurred during the presidential campaign. For all the hits they took (Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, “bitter,” the PUMAs, Bill Ayers, Landstuhl, even Joe the Plumber), they were always working toward the prize (270-plus electoral votes). And remember this: If you simply judged the last three months of the 2008 campaign by which campaign "won" the daily news cycle, McCain came out ahead. That’s perhaps the best example of the short-term/long-term.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:52 AM   #84
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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Down to 45% approval rating.

just sayin.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:05 AM   #85
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The only reason those Bush phone photoshops were funny was because Bush is a dimwit and it could be believable that he'd hold a phone upside down for a photo op.

You don't get quite the same way with Obama. There's a lot of things tea-baggers say about Obama, but stupid isn't on the top of their list.

Unless communists are now notorious for holding phones upside down to confuse Amerikuns.


The real photo, without the added bonus of an embarrassingly bad clock 'shopped on the wall.
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The only reason those Bush phone photoshops were funny was because Bush is a dimwit and it could be believable that he'd hold a phone upside down for a photo op.
Actually, no, it really isn't believable at all. And if you (general you) honestly think it is believable, I'd say you're the one with intelligence issues.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:38 AM   #87
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Relax, champ.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:32 AM   #88
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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports�

Down to 45% approval rating.

just sayin.
i also disapprove. so, if this was directed at me, i'm not sure what your point was. maybe you should stick to posting photoshopped images and internet slang. FTW LOLZ!!!!
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i also disapprove. so, if this was directed at me, i'm not sure what your point was. maybe you should stick to posting photoshopped images and internet slang. FTW LOLZ!!!!
Not directed at you and your pic did not post.


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same image that tiger edge posted.
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Actually, no, it really isn't believable at all. And if you (general you) honestly think it is believable, I'd say you're the one with intelligence issues.
Tiger Edge, obviously you're unintelligent.

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In Bush's defense, that was also photoshopped.
















But it was funny.
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I remember Michael Moore joking about it back during the time of Fahrenheit 9/11 and getting jumped all over it. I kinda miss those days.
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Some people just have too much time on their hands.
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Honestly, Obama has really let me down by allowing a coup to happen in Honduras and it's fucking 2009. And don't tell me it's not important for the US to allow this type of thing. If the US hadn't supported it it simply wouldn't have happened which I won't even try to explain but that's just the way it is.
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Some people just have too much time on their hands.

thats actually not too far from the truth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/us...licy.html?_r=1

same old shit, different face. looks like another endless war is about to begin. so much for your "hope and change"

too bad people are so caught up in the left/right bullshit that they dont even see what is really going on.
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we'll see what happens.

one wishes Bush/Cheney would have dithered just a bit longer, though.
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thats actually not too far from the truth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/us...licy.html?_r=1

same old shit, different face. looks like another endless war is about to begin. so much for your "hope and change"

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Before the 2004 election, I had to pick up a two star general at the airport. We were chatting (meaning, he was talking directly to me and I was silent) in the car ride about the election (Kerry/Bush). He said it didn't matter who won, despite the rhetoric. He said back then (Autumn 2004) that as soon as Iraq cooled down, we would find a reason to shift the forces to Afghanistan. We are in the era of a permanent presence in the Middle East, especially near Iran. Even though he was just sharing his opinion, it seems he was right five years ahead of time.
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