Obama General Discussion
- Thread starter diamond
- Start date
The friendliest place on the web for anyone that follows U2.
If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.
If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.
- Status
Earnie Shavers
Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS
By harsh I mean the administration's decision to manufacture a mini-crisis here. It's unwarranted.
Don't make me post Krauthammer
It’s not a manufactured mini-crisis. Bush told them to stop doing it. Obama is just saying, I’m fucking serious, stop doing it.
coolian2
Blue Crack Supplier
btw, i saw a wonderful post on another forum i frequent:
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
deep
Blue Crack Addict
By harsh I mean the administration's decision to manufacture a mini-crisis here. It's unwarranted.
Don't make me post Krauthammer
Baffling
precisely.
everybody chooses their 'own' set of facts to get the conclusion they want these days.
perhaps we can all look to one credible source for an informed opinion, a former Secretary of State?
I thank the 'fair and balanced" news network for broadcasting this.
YouTube - Huckabee Accuses Obama Of "Snubbing" Netanyahu
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
Poor Huckabee... he tries so hard.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
Did you watch the vid?
Baker knows the issue quite well.
Baker knows the issue quite well.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
I did. Huckabee seemed to try and lead him and Baker didn't bite.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
Baker just told it like it really is. Perhaps some of our 'conservative' posters will see this really is not a partisan issue.
Reminded me that the Bush 1 years, weren't that bad.
Reminded me that the Bush 1 years, weren't that bad.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
agreed. i was too young to have gotten this much into policy, but this was interesting:
Individual Mandate, Now Vilified By GOP, Was Supported By George H.W. Bush
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
I've always found it odd that they try and make into one... I used to think there was just something about the issue that I was missing because I never understood why posts like Bluer's were being made...
I think it's just part of their handbook and they're not even sure why anymore.
I Move in Mysterious Ways
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
- Joined
- Oct 8, 2001
- Messages
- 4,255
Are there any conservative posters on this forum?
coolian2
Blue Crack Supplier
yeah, but the more active ones go out of their way to not be taken seriously.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
A few... they come in waves, right now, not that many.
I Move in Mysterious Ways
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
- Joined
- Oct 8, 2001
- Messages
- 4,255
Lol, seems like they wouldn't stand a chance. I'm more middle-of-the-road, which I guess would be viewed as being as bad as conservative.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
if you don't post the
you will be told to never post in here again.
coolian2
Blue Crack Supplier
does that include
random linebreaks?
random linebreaks?
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
Obama neutralizes Romney:
as ever, chess not checkers.
as ever, chess not checkers.
Bluer White
New Yorker
deep, that's true. The Israelis never agreed to a building moratorium in Jerusalem. They made it pretty clear a few months ago. The U.S. didn't like it, but acknowledged the decision and instead highlighted housing restrictions that Netanyahu agreed to in other disputed areas. All as preconditions to restarting talks with President Abbas.
Bottom line, there was no policy change on Israel's part, no surprises to America or the Palestinians. That's why I made my original post wondering why the Obama administration decided on a dust-up with Netanyahu.
Bluer White
New Yorker
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
)
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
I bet he kicked major ass at the sports category.
The Obama administration decided to publicly embarrass Joe Biden during his state visit to Israel?
Are General Petraeus and Admiral Mullen deciding on a dust-up when they say that Israeli actions are directly endangering the lives of U.S. troops as well as long-term U.S. interests in the region? I mean, I thought that the Republicans hailed Petraeus as their savior...you'd think they'd be gravely concerned with his assessment of this situation. Or is he just a dupe of the Obama administration as well?
I find it really quite stunning that the Obama administration is being blamed for what should be clear to anyone with a brain is at best an intentional Israeli diplomatic faux pas.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
AP WASHINGTON -- In a reversal of a long-standing ban on most offshore drilling, President Barack Obama plans to allow oil drilling 50 miles off of Virginia and is considering opening up significant additional stretches along the Atlantic and Alaskan coasts.
Obama's plan will cover a lot of ground -- and water -- offering few concessions to environmentalists, who have been strident in their opposition to more oil platforms off the nation's shores. Hinted at for months, the move would modify a ban that has limited coastal drilling outside the Gulf of Mexico for more than 20 years.
The Los Angeles Times, citing administration officials, summed up the four biggest elements of the plan:
* Eventually open two-thirds of the eastern Gulf's oil and gas resources for drilling.
* Proceed with drilling off Virginia, provided the project clears environmental and military reviews.
* Study the viability of drilling off the mid- and southern Atlantic coasts.
* Study the viability of drilling in Alaska's Beaufort and Chukchi seas -- areas hotly defended by environmentalists -- but issue no new drilling leases in either sea before 2013.
The New York Times spoke with officials who indicated, "the first lease sale off the coast of Virginia could occur as early as next year in a triangular tract 50 miles off the coast that had already been approved for development but was held up by a court challenge and additional Interior Department review." New drilling wouldn't occur along the rest of the central and southern Atlantic Seaboard until 2012, contingent upon geologic and environmental studies.
Obama was set to announce the new drilling policy Wednesday at Andrews air base in Maryland. White House officials pitched the changes as ways to reduce U.S. reliance on foreign oil and create jobs - both politically popular ideas - but the president's decisions also could help secure support for a climate change bill languishing in Congress.
The president, joined by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, also was set to announce that proposed leases in Alaska's Bristol Bay would be canceled. Obama is allowing an expansion in Alaska's Cook Inlet to go forward. The plan also would leave in place the moratorium on drilling off the West Coast.
In addition, the Interior Department has prepared a plan to add drilling platforms in the eastern Gulf of Mexico if Congress allows that existing moratorium to expire. Lawmakers in 2008 allowed a similar moratorium to expire; at the time President George W. Bush lifted the ban, which opened the door to Obama's change in policy.
Under Obama's plan, drilling could take place 125 miles from Florida's Gulf coastline if lawmakers allow the moratorium to expire. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas in the Gulf of Mexico.
The president's team has been busy on energy policy and Obama talked about it in his State of the Union address. During that speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans and invest in biofuel and coal technologies.
"It means making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development," he warned.
Obama also urged Congress to complete work on a climate change and energy bill, which has remained elusive. The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.
White House officials hope Wednesday's announcement will attract support from Republicans, who adopted a chant of "Drill, baby, drill" during 2008's presidential campaign.
The president's Wednesday remarks would be paired with other energy proposals that were more likely to find praise from environmental groups. The White House planned to announce it had ordered 5,000 hybrid vehicles for the government fleet. And on Thursday, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Transportation Department are to sign a final rule that requires increased fuel efficiency standards for new cars.
Obama's plan will cover a lot of ground -- and water -- offering few concessions to environmentalists, who have been strident in their opposition to more oil platforms off the nation's shores. Hinted at for months, the move would modify a ban that has limited coastal drilling outside the Gulf of Mexico for more than 20 years.
The Los Angeles Times, citing administration officials, summed up the four biggest elements of the plan:
* Eventually open two-thirds of the eastern Gulf's oil and gas resources for drilling.
* Proceed with drilling off Virginia, provided the project clears environmental and military reviews.
* Study the viability of drilling off the mid- and southern Atlantic coasts.
* Study the viability of drilling in Alaska's Beaufort and Chukchi seas -- areas hotly defended by environmentalists -- but issue no new drilling leases in either sea before 2013.
The New York Times spoke with officials who indicated, "the first lease sale off the coast of Virginia could occur as early as next year in a triangular tract 50 miles off the coast that had already been approved for development but was held up by a court challenge and additional Interior Department review." New drilling wouldn't occur along the rest of the central and southern Atlantic Seaboard until 2012, contingent upon geologic and environmental studies.
Obama was set to announce the new drilling policy Wednesday at Andrews air base in Maryland. White House officials pitched the changes as ways to reduce U.S. reliance on foreign oil and create jobs - both politically popular ideas - but the president's decisions also could help secure support for a climate change bill languishing in Congress.
The president, joined by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, also was set to announce that proposed leases in Alaska's Bristol Bay would be canceled. Obama is allowing an expansion in Alaska's Cook Inlet to go forward. The plan also would leave in place the moratorium on drilling off the West Coast.
In addition, the Interior Department has prepared a plan to add drilling platforms in the eastern Gulf of Mexico if Congress allows that existing moratorium to expire. Lawmakers in 2008 allowed a similar moratorium to expire; at the time President George W. Bush lifted the ban, which opened the door to Obama's change in policy.
Under Obama's plan, drilling could take place 125 miles from Florida's Gulf coastline if lawmakers allow the moratorium to expire. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas in the Gulf of Mexico.
The president's team has been busy on energy policy and Obama talked about it in his State of the Union address. During that speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans and invest in biofuel and coal technologies.
"It means making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development," he warned.
Obama also urged Congress to complete work on a climate change and energy bill, which has remained elusive. The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.
White House officials hope Wednesday's announcement will attract support from Republicans, who adopted a chant of "Drill, baby, drill" during 2008's presidential campaign.
The president's Wednesday remarks would be paired with other energy proposals that were more likely to find praise from environmental groups. The White House planned to announce it had ordered 5,000 hybrid vehicles for the government fleet. And on Thursday, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Transportation Department are to sign a final rule that requires increased fuel efficiency standards for new cars.
Tiger Edge
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
And that's the only reason he did it, I bet.
Doesn't matter what he does to appease them, he's still a Kenyan socialist!!!!!!11!!!!11
When will he realize?
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
He's also putting a statue of Sarah Palin in the waters, modeled after the Statue Of Liberty
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
disappointing, but then again, there's that bipartisanship thing. will the Republicans hold town meetings about how this is a Bolshevik plot?
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
I heard the statue would be wearing an American flag bikini and holding a rifle.
INDY500
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
An à propos title, I think, for a few posters here. Don't worry, you'll grow out of it. 
- Status
Similar threads
- Sticky
Latest posts
-
3 Irishmen and a Dutchman Walk Into A Sphere - General Discussion Thread Part III
- Latest: Headache in a Suitcase
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
