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Old 07-15-2007, 02:11 PM   #41
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Huh. I think parents doth protest too much the huge amount of influence they actually carry with their children. As much as peers, music, and the like can influence their children, larger still looms the influence parents, teachers, and other adults close to children. I bought all manner of explicit material from age 14 with my mother's knowledge and consent - and experimented with sex without her knowledge and consent (boy, if she knew the half of it, she'd kill me. A dozen times over.) And yet, I fiercely protected my virginity until I was roughly twenty two or so. Why? Because it mattered to me that I got a high school education and was a legal adult before children entered the picture. That, and the fact that we always had information about sex around, that we could read at any time. I knew how babies were made - no stories about storks in my home - and knew exactly how far to go. Boys knew that I'd start breaking bones if they so much as /thought/ about thinking about taking it farther than I wanted to go. My mother coddled me in a lot of respects, and could even be a bit abusive with her overprotection, but she never broke my spirit - a very good thing, that. I was exposed to a lot, and was taught that no one, not even her, could really make me do something I didn't want to do. 'No' meant 'no'.

Of course, I was always a bit of a tigress, and very stubborn. That, fortunately, my mother sort of encouraged, in a backwards sort of way.

More women need to learn to put down the beauty products and start teaching their daughters that they are not the sum total of their body parts by example. Obviously, it's nice to know how to apply makeup (I'm actually very good at it!) and look pretty, but try instilling some sense of self that isn't in connection to what you look like.
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I have a problem with rap. I'm a teenager.

Speaking, not singing, over some pre-recorded beats isn't in anyway music. Music involves instruments and talent, ability to songwrite. I know a lot of rappers don't write their own music, which is why people like Eminem actually get respect. But still, the backing track of beats isn't music, half of it was made on a computer.

I don't even have to go into the lyrics to dislike it.
So...by that logic is electronic music also not music? There is certainly a lot of shitty electronica out there, but surely some of it is legit - or is it not just because a computer was used? What's your opinion of, say, Kid A? Is "Treefingers" more of a song than "Party Like a Rockstar?" And what exactly do you mean by "pre-recorded"? Not all beats are sampled from something else, and even the ones that use samples are combined with other elements... I'd say with a lot of mainstream rap if anyone is the "musician," it's the producer. They work wonders.

Of course, there is plenty of shitty rap out there that I probably wouldn't really call music, but there are shitty pop rock songs I wouldn't really call music either... I mean... if you're going to draw a line about what is music and what is not you're gonna end up excluding a lot more than just rap.

And it's not just "speaking." Rappers that have actual flow are quite impressive. Given there are also plenty of rappers who pretty much just do talk, but ... if rap is so easy to make, let's hear your rap record (and i'm not talking some shitty 50 Cent song, I'm talkin', like, something with actual artistic merit, like Outkast...though even the shitty rap at least knows how to be catchy. But again, half of that is the beat - thank you producers).

But not to turn this into a B&C thread or anything (sorry guys). As for the original topic... I'm sure music does play a part but a very small one. As others have mentioned, it is likely the people who would be having sex anyway that would gravitate towards that kind of music. It's a much larger cultural issue in which music plays a part, but is more of a reflection of problems caused by other things.

I dunno, I listen to some rap with lyrics that objectify women - in some cases it's almost amusing, like when Ben Folds sings so beautifully Dr. Dre's "Bitches Ain't Shit" but if i really listen to the lyrics of these songs they do kinda make me sick. its not a great message to send (and I'm only singling out rap because it's the big thing today...rock does it too. Just listen to Buckcherry )
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I can't say I have the urge to perform bukkake on anyone, despite the best efforts of Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz.
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That makes sense. If what's going into your head is that sex is something to be taken lightly then you might take sex more lightly yourself.
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Guys this thread is a year old, I'd lay off the quoting....
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This is dumb. People have been blaming music for years. Kids have had sex before there were ipods or even rock and roll.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:37 AM   #47
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This is dumb. People have been blaming music for years. Kids have had sex before there were ipods or even rock and roll.
Not to the extent there are today w/the influx of mass media.

Not blaming music entirely for one's behavior, it's ultimately one's choice if they are promiscuous or not, that said it's not rocket science that music can influence or set a mood.

This is an excellent thread Gina.
Glad I stumbled onto it.

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Not to the extent there are today w/the influx of mass media.
BS, it's just talked about more today.


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that said it's not rocket science that music can influence or set a mood.

If you really NEED music to set a mood you aren't doing it right.
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i wonder what kind of mood music sexydaddydiamond likes ...
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New Age.
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ah, an Enya man.
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George Winston
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Sigur Ros

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Sigur Ros is sexy, i agree.

i hear Moby will give you herpes, though ...
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