New political ad by Michael J. Fox

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This whole stem cell research thing is dejavu all over again. The world went through this during the test-tube baby debate resulting in Louise Brown being born in Britain as opposed to the US. Since then hundreds of thousands of people are alive and walking the planet thanks to the experiments conducted by scientists over decades.

Regardless what the US decides to do with public funding, stem cell research will continue in other countries. Someone in another country will be the first to benefit from a treatment or "cure" arising from the research. And then the US will hop on board like they did with invitro-fertilization.
 
I can't find the video or transcript, but Michael J Fox gave an interview in which they asked him to respond to what Limbaugh said. The gist of what he said was basically that he understands why and how some people don't understand Parkinson's and the way the meds work. What a class act, Rush is a loser. Game over.

Now they are having Jeff Suppan in ads, I guess that isn't "emotional manipulation" and he isn't being "used" because he doesn't have Parkinson's. I would venture a guess that Michael J Fox knows more about the science of stem cell research than Jeff Suppan does

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/s...age&adxnnlx=1161868313-A0t4Kkn+cg3EE7q+3D7BDQ
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
The ad with Jeff Suppan-and Jim Caviezel as Jesus I guess, speaking Aramaic I guess. Is that manipulative? And the statue.
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because we all know that Jesus was a Republican.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
Someone's comment on You Tube- "A rough translation of the Aramaic-
I'm gonna kick your liberal, ignorant, baby-killing, Canadian ass, Foxy"
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Oh, that's sweet. I'm telling you some people can be assholes. :mad: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
 
Wow, they musta thrown that ad together in five minutes. The production values are horrible. Anybody else notice the echo-y sound?

And using the Jim Caviezal, presumably as Jesus thing is just wrong. Unconscionable.
 
maycocksean said:
Wow, they musta thrown that ad together in five minutes. The production values are horrible. Anybody else notice the echo-y sound?

And using the Jim Caviezal, presumably as Jesus thing is just wrong. Unconscionable.
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Presumably as Jesus? Was he wearing a tunic and a beard?

Could it be that they used Jim Caviezal because he is one of the most well-known celebrities that supports their cause?
 
80sU2isBest said:


Presumably as Jesus? Was he wearing a tunic and a beard?

Could it be that they used Jim Caviezal because he is one of the most well-known celebrities that supports their cause?
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Well, at least we're in more agreement over at the Gun Control thread. Great Switzerland post, in case you haven't read my reply yet.

I wouldn't have assumed the Jesus connection except for that weird language he was speaking at the beginning of the clip. Can someone confirm that that was Aramaic (which if it was would definitely suggest to me a Jesus connection) or was it some other language (or just English that boneheaded me couldn't understand).
 
maycocksean said:
Can someone confirm that that was Aramaic (which if it was would definitely suggest to me a Jesus connection)
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Yeah, it is, I can tell because I recognize the phrase bar anash, "Son of Man," which is the form the Talmud always uses (ben enosh would be the Biblical Hebrew). I don't know Aramaic, but altogether the phrase--taking the above into account--sounds almost exactly like ha-ben enosh (only here it's bar anash) v'nashaq, which would be Hebrew for "the Son of Man with a kiss," which would make sense because that's a phrase associated with Judas and thus deception, betrayal, etc. (I don't, however, hear anything that sounds like the Hebrew l'ramut, "Dost thou betray...?"). I'm almost certain I'm right, though.
 
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Did anyone see Katie Couric's interview with Michael on the news last night? I think this is the extended version.

I guess he's acting here too

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2129742n

I just cried-yes because of his condition there, but even more so because of the kind of person he is in dealing with it and with all of this bs.

Transcript

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/26/eveningnews/main2129702.shtml

MF: "Well, first thing, he used the word victim, and in another occasion, I heard him use the word “pitiable. And I don’t understand, nobody in this position wants pity. We don’t want pity. I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I'm not a victim. I'm someone who’s in this situation. I'm in this situation with millions of other Americans, whether it’s like I said, for Parkinson’s, or Alzheimer’s, or ALS, or diabetes or spinal cord injury or what have you. And we have a right, if there’s answers out there, to pursue those answers with the full support of our politicians. And so I don't need anyone’s permission to do that. As far as democratic politics go, you know it’s kind of funny, because the argument that I heard from that quarter, was first, that I was manipulating it, that I was a con-man essentially, and I didn’t have the symptoms and was putting them on, so I was perpetrating fraud. And when he backed off then, then it became that I was a dupe of the, a shill for the Democrats, that I was being exploited. And the truth is, I've been involved with this issue since 2000. And in the meantime, separate and apart from my political involvement, I've started a foundation that’s raised $85 million for research and is the second leading fundraiser for Parkinson’s research after the federal government. And um, you know, I'm not a Johnny-come-lately. No one plucked me off the apple cart to come and do this. I mean, I believe in this cause. I’ve put a lot of my life and energy into it, and we're serious about it.

KC: You have said before, this is a bi-partisan problem that requires a bi-partisan solution.

MF: Disease is a non-partisan problem that requires a bi-partisan solution.

KC: Would you support a Republican candidate?

MF: I have. Arlen Specter is my guy. I've campaigned for Arlen specter. He's been a fantastic champion of stem cell research. I've spoken alongside Mike Castle, who's a Republican Congressman. Absolutely. This is not about red states and blue states. This is not about Democrats and Republicans. This is about claiming our place as the scientific leader in scientific research and moving forward and helping our citizens. That’s all it. It’s that simple."
 
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I know, the video is so disgusting. Too bad, cause Rush Limbaugh will never be half the man that Michael J Fox is.

I have to wonder when he lost all shreds of human decency, if he ever had any to begin with.
 
80sU2isBest said:


Presumably as Jesus? Was he wearing a tunic and a beard?
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of course it was done because he played jesus... he's speaking aramaic, for pete's sake. it's politics... it's all manipulation.

wether it was fox's idea to filim this or the dems went and asked him, they were obviously thrilled as hell to have his condition on full display. it's a very powerful image. to say that the democratic leadership didn't take some advantage of fox's condition, regardless of wether or not fox was more than willing to do the same, is just being naive. of course they did... but it would be equally naive to say the republicans wouldn't have done the exact same thing if they had the chance.
 
This is awesome-"Limbaugh Outfoxed"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/27/AR2006102701475.html

"Fox's disease can only take your body. Limbaugh's can take your soul"

Michael was on This Week this morning, I missed it and for some reason I can't get on the web site

but this brief clip says it all about MJF

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/10/29/michael-j-fox-jokes-with_n_32747.html

Rush is saying now that the video of him imitating Michael is being intentionally sped up and distorted to make him look bad. He is such a cretin. Oh Rush, poor you-you're the real victim in all of this, aren't you?
 
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He is such a cretin.
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Make no mistake, Limbaugh deserves your scorn. But if you're gonna lay-into someone for their insensitivity towards those stricken with a disease that causes neurological or cognitive impairment then...um...isn't there another word we might use?
 
martha said:


Ok, now you're just persecuting him. :shame:
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well, i still want to know what a certain unmarried fat man was doing coming back from the Dominican Republic with bottles of viagra in his suitcase.

he's not married. he certainly shouldn't be having sex.
 
INDY500 said:


Make no mistake, Limbaugh deserves your scorn. But if you're gonna lay-into someone for their insensitivity towards those stricken with a disease that causes neurological or cognitive impairment then...um...isn't there another word we might use?
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Well it means a total creep and loser to me, it was a spur of the moment word choice that was only directed at him. If you are trying to imply that I am insensitive to those stricken with those diseases because I chose that word, when I have some of that in my own family..well you are really barking up the wrong tree.

But if we're now going to scrutinize word choice like that in FYM, oh what fun. Can I play? :hyper:
 
They forgot the little blue pill



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Someone e-mailed this to Andrew Sullivan

"In your post on the anti-Stem Cell ad featuring Jim Caviezel, you wondered whether he was speaking Aramaic.

As it turns out (according to Reason's blog), he is, and he's saying "You have betrayed me with a kiss." Who this is directed to I am not sure. (The voters of Missouri? Michael J. Fox?) It does seem, however, that Mr. Caviezel is confused as to if he once simply played Jesus or if he actually IS Jesus."

So if you support stem cell research (or specifically this amendment), you have betrayed Jesus-I guess that's what he's saying
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
Someone e-mailed this to Andrew Sullivan

"In your post on the anti-Stem Cell ad featuring Jim Caviezel, you wondered whether he was speaking Aramaic.

As it turns out (according to Reason's blog), he is, and he's saying "You have betrayed me with a kiss." Who this is directed to I am not sure. (The voters of Missouri? Michael J. Fox?) It does seem, however, that Mr. Caviezel is confused as to if he once simply played Jesus or if he actually IS Jesus."

So if you support stem cell research (or specifically this amendment), you have betrayed Jesus-I guess that's what he's saying
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Who is Reason?
 
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