NBC and CBS Ban Church Ad

[Dreadsox]

CBS, NBC ban church ad inviting gays

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/01/news/fortune500/jesus_ad_ban/index.htm

 

[BVS]

I like this quote:

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line."

 

[deep]

the cnn site will not play the ad for me


this site does

 

[Dreadsox]

I like this quote:

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line."

Maybe a TV show about a chuech that welcomes Gay people can be in the works?

 

[verte76]

This is such a nice, friendly message, and they won't put it on the air. Something is wrong with this picture the way I see it. That denomination is the church my own sister married in, my in-laws are ministers in it. I don't like this news.

 

[dandy]

first 'saving private ryan' and now this. the networks have their heads up their asses.

there are truly offensive things on the telly at any given time: the simple life, desperate housewives, nearly all of the current music videos, and let's not forget the plethora of assinine beer commercials. heaven forbid they'd air a commercial with an intelligent message promoting tolerance and acceptance.

 

[joyfulgirl]

I like this quote:

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line."

Obviously gays should be on TV only to amuse us. Hopefully this news story will draw more attention to the United Church of Christ's loving message than the ad would have.

 

[shooboxx]

Its really very disturbing the amount of pressure the US media is feeling from the Govt in regards to certain issues.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Networks are very uncomfortable with showing any liberal Christian denomination, which is why many of us look at the "religious right" for a target. I read some time ago that 78% of democrats believe in God, not a far cry from the 80% of republicans that do as well.

The PCUSA is a denomination of the Presbyterian Church that leans more liberal than the PSA - a more conservative outfit. You basically have to talk to biblical scholars to get info like this, it's really kind of sad.

 

[Irvine511]

first 'saving private ryan' and now this. the networks have their heads up their asses.

there are truly offensive things on the telly at any given time: the simple life, desperate housewives, nearly all of the current music videos, and let's not forget the plethora of assinine beer commercials. heaven forbid they'd air a commercial with an intelligent message promoting tolerance and acceptance.

and boner pills! let's not forget those. can't hardly watch a newscast without ads for Cialis, Viagra, or whatever else.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Other than the whole Gene Robinson thing, I can't think of one instance where the media has bothered to inform its audience that there are quite a few predominately white churches and denominations that lean liberal.

 

[Diane L]

Hopefully this news story will draw more attention to the United Church of Christ's loving message than the ad would have.

I read about this issue on dailykos, and now I'm looking into the United Church of Christ. I like what I've read, and I'm going to try to attend our local church's service this Sunday.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Here's to the network pukes:

 

[BostonAnne]

I belong to the United Church of Christ and have known about the ad campaign since October. I was very excited about the welcoming ads. I viewed the ad as welcoming to all people and even missed the point that it is targeted towards someone that is gay?

I am really upset by this negative publicity. Why is it that people feel the need to critize an ad that is welcoming people into Christianity?


http://www.ucc.org/intro.htm

 

[BostonAnne]

I read about this issue on dailykos, and now I'm looking into the United Church of Christ. I like what I've read, and I'm going to try to attend our local church's service this Sunday.

I hope you have a great experience Diane. I LOVE the Church I found.

 

[pax]

to the UCC for a beautiful message

 

[verte76]

I hope they get more members from this.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

I doubt it because the media is usually run by liberal secularists who don't want anyone to acknowledge that there are predominately white Christians and Christian churches that lean liberal.

 

[nbcrusader]

to the UCC for a beautiful message

features two muscle-bound bouncers standing outside a church, selecting people who could attend service and those who could not.

Where is the beauty in that? It is quite an ugly suggestion. Frankly, I am aware of no churches that turn people away from the door. Churches welcome all sinners.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Sounds more like a nightclub than a church to me.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

let's take a step back people... if this ad was simply just the UCC saying that they take all commers and it was banned, that's one thing... but this ad also takes a shot at the catholic church with the whole "bouncer" thing, suggesting that the "other" churches are a bunch of bigots...

... the problem is, that while some may believe it's bigotry, members of the "other churches" may simply call it "their religous beliefs." and i can certainly see why networks wouldn't want to throw themselves into the middle of that debate over a commercial.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

I like this quote:

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line."

No kidding. That's confused me, too.

Also...

"the networks believe the ad is advocacy advertising."

Uh...yeah, 'cause no other groups have ever advocated anything on TV before (Truth ads, anyone?).

to CBS and NBC on this one (funny thing, too-wasn't it one of these channels that ran shows such as "All In The Family" back in the 70s? What happened there?).

Angela

 

[Macfistowannabe]

For one thing, networks are spineless. The UCC has every right to believe what they want, and to welcome whoever they want into their church. The more conservative Christians might send a few unwanted letters to the networks, but I doubt that the conservative Christians would give up CSI or whatever just to boycott a network. If I'm not mistaken, boycotts haven't been very effective since after the black civil rights movement.

 

[BVS]

let's take a step back people... if this ad was simply just the UCC saying that they take all commers and it was banned, that's one thing... but this ad also takes a shot at the catholic church with the whole "bouncer" thing, suggesting that the "other" churches are a bunch of bigots...

... the problem is, that while some may believe it's bigotry, members of the "other churches" may simply call it "their religous beliefs." and i can certainly see why networks wouldn't want to throw themselves into the middle of that debate over a commercial.

Why are you assuming they are taking a shot at the catholic church. From where I stand the majority of denominations across this country aren't very accepting to homosexuals. I've been to a lot of churches in my time, I think I've visited almost every denomination of Christianity and for the most part they aren't very accepting. I've walked out of Presbyterian churches because they had a whole sermon about not allowing homosexual bishops.

Good for the UCC it's about time someone started standing up. May God be on your side.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Or... may they be on God's side.

 

[joyfulgirl]

Frankly, I am aware of no churches that turn people away from the door. Churches welcome all sinners.

Of course not--it wasn't intended to be literal, I'm sure. They don't turn gays away at the door, they just make it clear once they're inside that being gay is not acceptable. Perhaps the churches in California where you live are more open; but the churches in the south are kinda scary (speaking verrry generally, of course).

 

[BVS]

Or... may they be on God's side.

Yes...

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Not necessarily that, but the conservative churches still believe homosexuality is a sin. There are more liberal churches out there, but the media doesn't report about them very often.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

features two muscle-bound bouncers standing outside a church, selecting people who could attend service and those who could not.

This isn't much of an "inviting" church, and their doctorine to me is rather unrealistic. How they decide who and who can't come in sounds more like a freaking nightclub than a church. Don't be surprised if they don't let you in for being half bald.

 

[Irvine511]

Where is the beauty in that? It is quite an ugly suggestion. Frankly, I am aware of no churches that turn people away from the door. Churches welcome all sinners.

hmmmmmmmmm ... i mean this as an honest question. could two openly gay men walk into a conservative church in, say, Oklahoma together? perhaps holding hands?

not to pick on Oklahoma. anywhere, really.