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Minneapolis, MN
__________________Thursday, February 6, 2003 ACT NOW THIS JUST IN The Minnesota House of Representatives today introduced a bill (HF 341) to repeal the state human rights amendment, which protects gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) people from discrimination in employment, housing, education, public accommodations and other areas. In addition, it would remove sexual orientation as a protected class in the hate crimes laws. If approved, Minnesota would become the first state ever to extend, and then rescind, protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. Our current Governor, Tim Pawlenty, while majority leader of the House, has said, ³My vote in 1993 in favor of the gay rights amendment is one I would take back.² - Politics in Minnesota, Nov. 29, 2001. The most basic rights GLBT people currently enjoy are threatened and the prospect of making gains in the struggle for GLBT equality in Minnesota is now more difficult than it has been in years. In a recent Star Tribune article, the Minnesota Family Council stated that they feel that the new political landscape offers unprecedented hope for its agenda. Over the next two years, the Minnesota Family Council is working to: € Repeal the Human Rights Amendment that protects GLBT people from discrimination in schools, public accommodations and housing. Happening now! € Eliminate health care benefits and sick and bereavement leave from the same-sex partners of state employees. Happening now! € Ban the promotion of homosexuality in schools and mandate abstinence only until marriage sex education. € Give preference to married couples for adoption and foster care placement. WHAT YOU CAN DO? Today Call your elected representative and senator to let them know that you oppose this bill. Ask them to vote against any attacks against the GLBT Community. Tell them why it is important to you that the Human Rights Statute and the Hate Crimes provisions remain intact. To find out contact info for your legislators and for additional links to the Minnesota Legislature, go to the OutFront Minnesota website at www.outfront.org <http://www.outfront.org/> . TOMORROW AND EVERY DAY AFTERWARDS Check your email for updates from OutFront Minnesota.* Forward this and other Action Alerts to your family and friends. Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper. Ask your friends and family members to call their legislators. Thank the legislators who are helpful allies. Get angry and get active. Make a lot of noise about this. Remember that this fight is not over. We are a powerful community who has come out for our rights and will always fight for them. LATER - Be a leader in the fight for justice by attending GLBT Lobby Day. Tell your friends and families to attend Lobby Day let¹s show our legislators that Minnesotans demand GLBT equality. If you only have one hour on GLBT Lobby Day attend the 1:00 rally in the rotunda there truly is power in numbers! And lastly, those who cannot make it should call, write or email their legislators on GLBT Lobby Day in support of GLBT civil rights. WHAT GLBT Lobby Day WHERE Minnesota State Capitol WHEN Thursday, March 6 from 12:00-4:30. 12:00 - Reception with Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) in the Great Hall of the State Capitol 12:30 Legislative Briefing with OutFront Minnesota in the Great Hall 1:00 Rally for GLBT Equality and Justice in the State Capitol Rotunda 2:30-4:30 Individual Meetings with Legislators 5:00 Celebration (location TBA) WHO Hundreds of GLBT and Allies from across Minnesota gathering together in support of GLBT rights REGISTRATION All GLBT Lobby Day events are free and open to the public. Please register online at www.outfront.org <http://www.outfront.org/> or call 612.822.0127x 617 or 800.800.0350 x 617 ![]() |
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I remember why I hate any group that has the word "Family" in it. Substitute that word for "Hate" and that's what you really have.
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you should've kept jesse ventura
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yes, yes we should have.
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![]() ![]() Can anyone tell me how exactly homosexuality is "promoted" in schools, anywhere? ![]() I admit, I agree w/ promoting (not "mandating" as they put it) abstinence re avoiding AIDS and STD'S (because sadly too many young people will still have unprotected sex), and for the emotional health of teenagers. That's just my personal opinion. The rest of what they're talking about is offensive to me. |
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They also want to rewrite World War II history, removing mentions of homosexuals as a persecuted group under Nazism.
Bigotry anyone? Melon |
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I am so ashamed of Minnesota. Why in the world are they talking about doing that? It may be the 21st century, but, boy, do we still have a ways to go in our thinking... ![]() Angela |
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the thing that makes it so odd is that it was one of the first states to promote that part of the human rights act in the first place.
AND tim pawlenty never made mention of anything like this when he was running....how truly odd. |
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lilly, you did not notice his name had an R next to it.
Well, so far it has just been introduced in the Republican controlled house. Hopefully it won't get to the Democrat controlled senate.
I guess this is just more of that compassionate conservatism. Good ol' traditional values. |
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sweet dee'
don't be thinking i voted for tim pawlenty. my vote was definately for independent tim penny. goodness knows he wouldn't have pulled this. ![]() |
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Re: lilly, you did not notice his name had an R next to it.
Melon, about the rewriting WWII thing-you're kidding...
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So their idea of "traditional values" is discriminating against homosexuals simply because they're different. I feel sorry for the children of any of the people who want to repeal that amendment-what a great lesson those people are sending to their children. ![]() Angela |
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Minnesota Gay Rights Face Repeal
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff February 8, 2003 12:02 a.m. ET/+5GMT/-3PT (St. Paul, Minnesota) Civil rights protections for gays and lesbians in Minnesota are under attack. A bill to remove sexuality from Minnesota's human rights law has been introduced in the state legislature, and proponents say some form of repeal stands a better chance of passage than at any time since discrimination based on sexual orientation was added to the law in 1993. Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran, the bill's chief author, said the human rights code is discriminating against Christian conservatives and others who consider "homosexuality a violation of God's law." "I know a lady who was fired from her job because she disagreed with homosexual activities in her school," said Lindner. The law is "being used as a pretext to promote homosexuality in the schools, and there are lawsuits being filed against religious organizations whose beliefs conflict with hiring homosexuals," said Tom Prichard, president of the Minnesota Family Council which is pressing legislators to pass the bill. With a new conservative legislature, the bill stands a good chance of passage in the House, but its future in the state Senate is less certain. The bill drew a harsh response from the Senate's only openly gay member, Scott Dibble, DFL-Minneapolis. "Extremists in the Republican Party are overplaying their hand," he said. "Once people find out that in the proud tradition of Trent Lott they are trying to divide Minnesotans, this absolutely will backfire." Dibble said he found it particularly offensive that the bill would remove sexual orientation as a classification in the human-rights law's definition of Holocaust survivors and victims. "It is a disgrace to the enduring legacy of Minnesota as a leader in civil and human rights that such an incredibly mean-spirited piece of legislation would even see the light of day," said OutFront Minnesota Executive Director Ann M. DeGroot. "When legislators stoop to endorsing Nazi persecution of gay people, you know the motivation is one of deep-seated prejudice," DeGroot said. "The scope of the bill is alarming and would make gay, lesbian bisexual and transgender people second-class citizens in a state where they now enjoy strong civil rights protections," said Human Rights Campaign National Field Director Seth Kilbourn." ----------------------- Okay, now that I reread this, some people may think I exaggerated. I apologize if that is the case. I'm angered that this is even an issue in 2003. ![]() It's always the same old bullshit. Religious organizations are always exempt from these laws, but they always pretend that they aren't, so they can cry "Christian discrimination" and legislate their intolerance. Melon |
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does separation of church and state apply to all states? :ragefilledsarcasm: |
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You know, I think of it this way. Certainly, people are free to hate whomever they like in this nation, whether it be homosexuals or racial minorities; but never would it be considered acceptable to sponsor legislation to codify these prejudices into law. A lot of these arguments against homosexuals today were once used against black people in the first part of the twentieth century to justify segregation and whatnot, and it is disgusting. Unfortunately, I almost think it is going to be the same way--we'll have to wait fifty or more years until all the bigots die, and then we'll realize how ridiculous all these arguments really were.
These "Family" organizations, to me, are no different than the KKK or the Aryan Nation, who are obsessed with "preserving" the white race. Instead, they are obsessed with "preserving" Christianity (and it is amusing that with these racist groups, they consider themselves devout Christians as well in many cases); but who asked them to? I also find it repugnant that religions--the supposed purveyors of love and decency--are the groups that are always immune to anti-discrimination laws. Isn't that sick when you think about it? Melon |
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See, it's religious people like these that Melon described that bug me. This is what I don't like about religion, right here. Angela |
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me too!!!! And it's a damn shame he lost.
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Don't balme religion blame the idiots who use religion fo their own purposes. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of organized religion, being a child of the clergy means I know too much to ever see organized religion as hideously flawed. But lets keep in mind any religion is only as good as the people in it.
That said these actions are beyond digusting. Weather you consider homosexual sex a sin or not there's certainly nothing in the Christian faith that can be remotely considered as saying "Thou shalt hate and oppress gays." Such behaviour is fundamnetally un-Christian and a disgrace and violation of everything I believe in. |
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Maybe I'm missing something-I swear, I will never understand what the "sin" is that homosexuals are committing. What is so "sinful" about homosexuality? I...don't...get it. I just don't. Bono said this at a church during his tour of the heartland-he said that he never understood this hierarchy to sin, never understood how "sexual immorality" is higher up on the scale of sin than things like the church screwing around with people's money (that wasn't his exact quote, but you get the idea). Perhaps he should've stopped in Minnesota and said that to those people up there. Angela |
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