Michael Moore: "4/18/02)...New and Improved! And it's Free of Religious Remarks!!

Danospano · 04-18-2002, 05:38 PM

Fellow U2 fans,
I just recieved the most recent addition to Michael Moore's book tour diary. Some of you were bloody pissed at the content of humour contained the last addition (Good Friday/Easter...etc), but I can gurantee that the suject matter of this letter pretains almost exclusively to politics and the fact that his book is #1 on the NYTimes Bestsellers list for the 4th STRAIGHT WEEK!
Let's keep the conversation going, and remember that we attain truth by hearing both sides of the story.
And now...Mr. Moore

....
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"Stupid" Stays at #1 on NY Times List, 4 Weeks in a Row

4/15/02

Dear Friends,

I woke up in Tampa, Florida, yesterday, picked up the Sunday newspaper, and
there it was: the New York Times today had declared that, for the fourth week in
a row, "Stupid White Men" is the #1 book in the country.

I am out of explanations at this point as to how this thing has stayed atop on
the Times bestseller list for a month. I've been informed that the book is now
in its 19th printing. Also, it remains #1 in Canada, and it has gone to #1 this
week in Britain and Ireland, according to the Sunday Times of London.

All this has occurred in spite of a virtual press blackout on the book. Or maybe
because of it. The more the book is ignored by the media, the better it does.
So, if you are a newspaper editor or a TV producer, PLEASE do NOT pay any
attention to this book! Just because more Americans are reading it than any
other book in the country for the past month should NOT persuade you to ask
crazy questions of yourselves like, "How can this be happening when the
'President' has the highest approval ratings ever?" Just concern yourselves with
repeating your mantra of the past 7 months -- "America Loves Bush! America Loves
Bush!" It's a comforting mantra, one that seems to bring you solace at a time of
journalistic confusion. It's also simple and easy to repeat -- and it means that
you don't have to go out and do the work you are supposed to do (like rooting
out the Enron-backed criminals in the White House or finding out what really
happened before and after September 11th ).

The front page of the Tampa Tribune yesterday was all ablaze with the news about
the convention of Florida's Democrats on Saturday in Orlando. There was a color
photo of a smiling, waving Al Gore. Lieberman was there and so was Kerry and a
host of other stars of the Democratic Party. About 2,500 Floridians were in
attendance.

But in Tampa, on that same night, I was looking out from the stage at the Sun
Dome at a crowd of nearly 7,000 people who had come to the "Democracy Rising"
rally organized by Ralph Nader. Tampa has now produced the largest crowd of the
book tour (I signed the 2000th book of the evening somewhere around 2am). This
is 3 times the crowd that the Democrats got and, again, there is virtually no
coverage.

But remember -- it NO LONGER MATTERS that most of the media ignores the real
news. It no longer matters because much of the media has chosen to make itself
irrelevant through its lazy reporting, sleazy presentation, its obedience to the
corporate agenda, and all the blowhard pundits who scream out their useless
opinions. A political shift has occurred in the country and the media has
completely missed it. We have become a nation where the majority of citizens are
very liberal and progressive on the issues. The majority of Americans now call
themselves pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-labor, and anti-Big Business. 154
million out of the 200 million voters in this country did NOT cast a vote for
George W. Bush.

That is the America in which we now live. Liberal, progressive, and sick of the
stupid white men who run the country.

Hey, here's something that you haven't seen on the Fox Nuisance Channel - there
are now over 140 college campuses in the U.S. with an active student Green
organization. The Green kids in Florida are everywhere and their numbers are
among the largest. You wouldn't think so, not after the blame that was heaped on
the Greens for causing Gore to "lose" Florida. But they are building a mass
movement, and the turnout I saw in Tampa was proof to me that there is a ruckus
afoot in America, and if it's rockin' in a place like central Florida, then it's
happening just down the street from where you live.

The Democrats could have stopped this. They could have spent the past two years
fighting to raise the minimum wage or to lower the amount of pollutants spewed
into the air or to call for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Bush and Enron.

But, no. The Democrats have spent their time trying to act like Republicans,
thinking that's how they will win back the House this November. Note to
Democrats: You will not win the House by being your usual weak, lame-o selves.
The Greens will deny you the chance you have had to take charge. Until you get a
clue, the Greens will thrive and grow. You want to avoid a repeat of 2000? Fight
for the working people of this country! You want to stop the Greens? Act like a
real Democrat!

Stand up for something! Do the math: A couple of thousand in Orlando come to see
the stars of the Democratic Party, while, at the same exact moment, nearly three
times that number is in Tampa to cheer on a progressive agenda -- which is
greater? If the Democrats can't add 2+2, then they are doomed.

I should also mention that Tampa is the command headquarters for the war on
Afghanistan. It's all done via remote control from the comfort of Florida's
beautiful Gulf coast. How many civilians have we killed now? I believe the last
number I read, it was more than the civilians who died on September 11th. Oh, I
know the Bush boys over at Macdill Air Force Base have their rationalization as
to why, in wartime, sometimes civilians have to die. The terrorists of 9-11 had
their rationalizations, too. Everybody's got their rationalizations. Well,
here's mine -- there is NO rationalization for the killing of other human beings
except in the rare and extreme cases of true self-defense.

Today is the beginning of National Library Week. As many of you know by now, it
was a single librarian who saved my book from the corporate shredder. In the
next day or so, I will send you another letter telling you about what she did
and what you can do to support the libraries of this country.

Thanks again to everyone for your support. I'll be in the Northwest later in the
week. Hope to see many of you there.

Yours,

Michael Moore
Author
Filmmaker
Detroit Tigers fan

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DrTeeth · 04-18-2002, 05:57 PM

Don't even bother Danospano. There is bound to be someone offended here and at the end of the thread they'll all be bickering like little kids about christianity and quoting the bible as usual.

[This message has been edited by DrTeeth (edited 04-18-2002).]

melon · 04-18-2002, 06:04 PM

I think I like Moore because he is a great reflection of the economy and situation of Michigan. I really cannot say if he makes sense outside of Michigan, but he certainly rings true here.

But, by all means, he is in no way perfect, nor do I always agree with him.

Melon

------------------
"Still, I never understood the elevation of greed as a political credo. Why would anyone want to base a political programme on bottomless dissatisfaction and the impossibility of happiness? Perhaps that was its appeal: the promise of luxury that in fact promoted endless work." - Hanif Kureishi, Intimacy

joyfulgirl · 04-18-2002, 06:13 PM

still glad I voted Green in 2000

popsadie · 04-18-2002, 11:09 PM

Cool Dano..thanks for posting this

gvox · 04-19-2002, 08:13 AM

Good post Dano...I especially enjoyed his take on the state of the military campaign..I think Im going to have to read more of this fellow, including that book.

Gabriel

------------------
"...well the God I believe in isn't short of cash, mister!"
BTBS, Rattle and Hum

Too Much Asleep · 04-19-2002, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrTeeth:
Don't even bother Danospano. There is bound to be someone offended here and at the end of the thread they'll all be bickering like little kids about christianity and quoting the bible as usual.

Yeah. I'm sick of little kids quoting the bible.

Not George Lucas · 04-19-2002, 10:42 AM

Michael Moore
Michael Moore
Riding through the woods.

Michael Moore
Michael Moore
With his bag of things.

He steals them from the rich
And gives the to the poor!
Mister Moore
Mister Moore
Mister Moore

Michael Moore is nothing more than the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. He needs to be kissed in the forehead with a sledgehammer and beaten with a hail of bullets.

Salome · 04-20-2002, 06:18 PM

now that's a bit harsh

------------------
Salome
Shake it, shake it, shake it

Rono · 04-21-2002, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by joyfulgirl:
still glad I voted Green in 2000

I did not know that there was a green party in the states.

Anthony · 04-21-2002, 06:33 AM

Good post. I like Moore.

Ant.

04-18-2002, 05:57 PM	#2
DrTeeth Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Q continuum Posts: 4,770 Local Time: 11:51 PM	Don't even bother Danospano. There is bound to be someone offended here and at the end of the thread they'll all be bickering like little kids about christianity and quoting the bible as usual. [This message has been edited by DrTeeth (edited 04-18-2002).] __________________

04-21-2002, 06:33 AM	#11
Anthony Refugee Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,538 Local Time: 10:51 PM	Good post. I like Moore. Ant. __________________

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04-18-2002, 05:38 PM	#1
Danospano Refugee Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,415 Local Time: 05:51 PM	Michael Moore: "4/18/02)...New and Improved! And it's Free of Religious Remarks!! Fellow U2 fans, I just recieved the most recent addition to Michael Moore's book tour diary. Some of you were bloody pissed at the content of humour contained the last addition (Good Friday/Easter...etc), but I can gurantee that the suject matter of this letter pretains almost exclusively to politics and the fact that his book is #1 on the NYTimes Bestsellers list for the 4th STRAIGHT WEEK! Let's keep the conversation going, and remember that we attain truth by hearing both sides of the story. And now...Mr. Moore .... ############################################# "Stupid" Stays at #1 on NY Times List, 4 Weeks in a Row 4/15/02 Dear Friends, I woke up in Tampa, Florida, yesterday, picked up the Sunday newspaper, and there it was: the New York Times today had declared that, for the fourth week in a row, "Stupid White Men" is the #1 book in the country. I am out of explanations at this point as to how this thing has stayed atop on the Times bestseller list for a month. I've been informed that the book is now in its 19th printing. Also, it remains #1 in Canada, and it has gone to #1 this week in Britain and Ireland, according to the Sunday Times of London. All this has occurred in spite of a virtual press blackout on the book. Or maybe because of it. The more the book is ignored by the media, the better it does. So, if you are a newspaper editor or a TV producer, PLEASE do NOT pay any attention to this book! Just because more Americans are reading it than any other book in the country for the past month should NOT persuade you to ask crazy questions of yourselves like, "How can this be happening when the 'President' has the highest approval ratings ever?" Just concern yourselves with repeating your mantra of the past 7 months -- "America Loves Bush! America Loves Bush!" It's a comforting mantra, one that seems to bring you solace at a time of journalistic confusion. It's also simple and easy to repeat -- and it means that you don't have to go out and do the work you are supposed to do (like rooting out the Enron-backed criminals in the White House or finding out what really happened before and after September 11th ). The front page of the Tampa Tribune yesterday was all ablaze with the news about the convention of Florida's Democrats on Saturday in Orlando. There was a color photo of a smiling, waving Al Gore. Lieberman was there and so was Kerry and a host of other stars of the Democratic Party. About 2,500 Floridians were in attendance. But in Tampa, on that same night, I was looking out from the stage at the Sun Dome at a crowd of nearly 7,000 people who had come to the "Democracy Rising" rally organized by Ralph Nader. Tampa has now produced the largest crowd of the book tour (I signed the 2000th book of the evening somewhere around 2am). This is 3 times the crowd that the Democrats got and, again, there is virtually no coverage. But remember -- it NO LONGER MATTERS that most of the media ignores the real news. It no longer matters because much of the media has chosen to make itself irrelevant through its lazy reporting, sleazy presentation, its obedience to the corporate agenda, and all the blowhard pundits who scream out their useless opinions. A political shift has occurred in the country and the media has completely missed it. We have become a nation where the majority of citizens are very liberal and progressive on the issues. The majority of Americans now call themselves pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-labor, and anti-Big Business. 154 million out of the 200 million voters in this country did NOT cast a vote for George W. Bush. That is the America in which we now live. Liberal, progressive, and sick of the stupid white men who run the country. Hey, here's something that you haven't seen on the Fox Nuisance Channel - there are now over 140 college campuses in the U.S. with an active student Green organization. The Green kids in Florida are everywhere and their numbers are among the largest. You wouldn't think so, not after the blame that was heaped on the Greens for causing Gore to "lose" Florida. But they are building a mass movement, and the turnout I saw in Tampa was proof to me that there is a ruckus afoot in America, and if it's rockin' in a place like central Florida, then it's happening just down the street from where you live. The Democrats could have stopped this. They could have spent the past two years fighting to raise the minimum wage or to lower the amount of pollutants spewed into the air or to call for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Bush and Enron. But, no. The Democrats have spent their time trying to act like Republicans, thinking that's how they will win back the House this November. Note to Democrats: You will not win the House by being your usual weak, lame-o selves. The Greens will deny you the chance you have had to take charge. Until you get a clue, the Greens will thrive and grow. You want to avoid a repeat of 2000? Fight for the working people of this country! You want to stop the Greens? Act like a real Democrat! Stand up for something! Do the math: A couple of thousand in Orlando come to see the stars of the Democratic Party, while, at the same exact moment, nearly three times that number is in Tampa to cheer on a progressive agenda -- which is greater? If the Democrats can't add 2+2, then they are doomed. I should also mention that Tampa is the command headquarters for the war on Afghanistan. It's all done via remote control from the comfort of Florida's beautiful Gulf coast. How many civilians have we killed now? I believe the last number I read, it was more than the civilians who died on September 11th. Oh, I know the Bush boys over at Macdill Air Force Base have their rationalization as to why, in wartime, sometimes civilians have to die. The terrorists of 9-11 had their rationalizations, too. Everybody's got their rationalizations. Well, here's mine -- there is NO rationalization for the killing of other human beings except in the rare and extreme cases of true self-defense. Today is the beginning of National Library Week. As many of you know by now, it was a single librarian who saved my book from the corporate shredder. In the next day or so, I will send you another letter telling you about what she did and what you can do to support the libraries of this country. Thanks again to everyone for your support. I'll be in the Northwest later in the week. Hope to see many of you there. Yours, Michael Moore Author Filmmaker Detroit Tigers fan ############################################# __________________

04-18-2002, 06:04 PM	#3
melon ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ásgarðr Posts: 11,789 Local Time: 06:51 PM	I think I like Moore because he is a great reflection of the economy and situation of Michigan. I really cannot say if he makes sense outside of Michigan, but he certainly rings true here. But, by all means, he is in no way perfect, nor do I always agree with him. Melon ------------------ "Still, I never understood the elevation of greed as a political credo. Why would anyone want to base a political programme on bottomless dissatisfaction and the impossibility of happiness? Perhaps that was its appeal: the promise of luxury that in fact promoted endless work." - Hanif Kureishi, Intimacy

04-18-2002, 06:13 PM	#4
joyfulgirl Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 16,683 Local Time: 03:51 PM	still glad I voted Green in 2000

04-18-2002, 11:09 PM	#5
popsadie Acrobat Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Hsinchu, Tawain Posts: 461 Local Time: 10:51 PM	Cool Dano..thanks for posting this

04-19-2002, 08:13 AM	#6
gvox Ghost of Love Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In The Ballroom of The Crystal Lights Posts: 20,013 Local Time: 06:51 PM	Good post Dano...I especially enjoyed his take on the state of the military campaign..I think Im going to have to read more of this fellow, including that book. Gabriel ------------------ "...well the God I believe in isn't short of cash, mister!" BTBS, Rattle and Hum

04-19-2002, 10:42 AM	#8
Not George Lucas Acrobat Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Bend, IN USA Posts: 399 Local Time: 10:51 PM	Michael Moore Michael Moore Riding through the woods. Michael Moore Michael Moore With his bag of things. He steals them from the rich And gives the to the poor! Mister Moore Mister Moore Mister Moore Michael Moore is nothing more than the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. He needs to be kissed in the forehead with a sledgehammer and beaten with a hail of bullets.

04-20-2002, 06:18 PM	#9
Salome you are what you is Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 22,068 Local Time: 12:51 AM	now that's a bit harsh ------------------ Salome Shake it, shake it, shake it