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Old 01-08-2008, 08:03 PM   #261
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Hillary's lead keeps getting bigger; but it is close.
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As for this "experience" issue. Gosh, I don't know what else to say on that subject. I think several compelling arguments have been made as to why Obama's lack of experience isn't such the handicap that everyone insists it is. I'm not sure there's any point in repeating those.

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look at Bill Clinton's resume' in 92 when he was 46 same age as Obama

or better yet JFKs in 60 when he was younger than Obama,
JFK 12 years in Congress, 8 years in Senate (I think) not to mention WWII service.

With Obama's experience and popularity he would be natural for Governor, that is a chief executive position and seems to be the way the Whitehouse has been trending since 1976.

people will gamble on a statehouse

Jesse "the body" Ventura

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I am not ready to flip a coin on the Whitehouse.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:07 PM   #263
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They've already called it for McCain.

And Barack needs to hold on. They are already suggesting that Kucinich may have handed Barack Iowa.

Digging in for this. Shit.
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With Obama's experience and popularity he would be natural for Governor, that is a chief executive position and seems to be the way the Whitehouse has been trending since 1976.
When Richardson ran for Governor here in NM and won, everyone knew that he would run for President.

I agree with you completely. Based on what I've seen so far, I wouldn't mind at all if Obama was elected President. But not in 2008.
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When Richardson ran for Governor here in NM and won, everyone knew that he would run for President.

I agree with you completely. Based on what I've seen so far, I wouldn't mind at all if Obama was elected President. But not in 2008.
And look how much being a Governer has helped Richardson in the Democratic race...
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Well, so much for my informal polling in the line this morning.
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And look how much being a Governer has helped Richardson in the Democratic race...
I forgot to add that we also knew he didn't have a chance, but it's a logical move towards the White House.
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I'd love to know how Obama would be "unstoppable" with a bit more experience. You can't exactly manufacture the momentum he's got right now, and if he doesn't win this time around, he's sure as hell not going to be able to guarantee any of that momentum will stick around at all.

I also can't believe Hillary's polling so well. She strikes me as being cut from the same cloth as the current establishment, of right-leaning big money.
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Total Richardson, Dennis, and Edwards and then ask all those people who they prefer between Hilary and Obama.

It's time for Edwards to do what he did on TV Saturday night -- tag team.

Or hand it to Hillary.

This is the general election for me.
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I'm watching McCain's speech right now, and it's really something else.
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I am stunned that my guy could be so wrong on this one! He had Obama up by more than 10% yesterday. He called FL. too close in the 2000 Election saying the networks were wrong wrong wrong.

Kudos to the Clinton machine for making this a contest.

Tears may have won this one.
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39%-Clinton
37%-Obama

This is getting exciting.
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Hillary was up by 5% fifteen minutes ago, now it's back down to 3%. 39%-36%.

She gives up one more percent and it's the one percent race it was at the start an hour and a half ago.
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Amazing reversal of what everyone thought would happen. This afternoon all the news was talking about was not if Obama would win, but how much of a blowout it would be. This is incredible.
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It's a 2% race and 60% of the votes have yet to be counted. Don't count Obama out.
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It's a 2% race and 60% of the votes have yet to be counted. Don't count Obama out.
I'm not at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins. I am surprised that it's a race, and Hillary has even a prayer of winning.
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He's not saying that at all. He's just saying that what looked to be a possible blowout (and I thought that as well, and I live here) has turned into a race so close that we won't know for a while longer. Even if Clinton ultimately loses, it will be far closer than anyone would have thought.
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I'm watching McCain's speech right now, and it's really something else.
Really? I was bored to tears...

I don't understand why he doesn't even try with younger voters, I mean of course he'll get votes from you and those that are diehard Republicans but I just don't see him getting any independent or middle ground young people. He actually comes off older than he really is.
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CNN keeps mentioning that the college towns (like Hanover (Dartmouth), Durham (UNH) and others) have not had their results reported, so this will really tighten up soon.

Of course, both of those places have a lot of students that aren't residents of NH, so I wonder how much of a difference it will really be.
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I'm listening to the updates via NPR (CNN.com updates slowly on my very old PC ).
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