Kieran McConville
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i feel like im on crazy pills
verte76 said:I wouldn't mind seeing the guy busted myself, if only to prove that guy doesn't speak for me, and as a Christian and an American it's very annoying.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:
Check the post of Scarletwine above.
martha said:
It's still protected speech in the US.
melon said:
Analyzing the details and applying it to past precedent would show that Robertson has merely exercised (rather offensive) freedom of speech. He will not--and should not--be prosecuted for it.
Melon
A_Wanderer said:Pfft, bugger Robertson with a pitchfork ~ whats he doing going around giving realpolitik advice to the world, you wouldn't want the world expecting that bullet,
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:Alright, now that I know the American rules, I´ll advocate to kill Robertson when I come to the U.S. next time. Just for fun
melon said:
The other side of the coin is that foreign nationals are generally given less leeway,
melon said:Foreign nationals have fewer rights than citizens, and this can be said of every country. If you are spouting anti-government rhetoric in a guest nation--no matter where it is--you are apt to be deported. Period.
Pat Robertson, as U.S. born citizen, cannot be deported, you see, so we have to tolerate him more than, say, someone we can just ship back to their home country.
Melon
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:melon: are you the opinion foreign nationals should have the same right (on free speech) like the Americans or are you comfortable with the situation like it is?
melon said:
Whatever I believe is of no consequence. The chances of me ever having political power are rather nil at this point. I'm merely stating what has happened here in the past. It hasn't happened often, but it has happened.
Just to let you know, the UK has ratcheted up deportations of foreign nationals that spout too much hate speech themselves.
Melon
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:yeah, but I am interested in your opinion, that´s why I ask for it!
melon said:Europe has a much tougher attitude towards hate speech than the U.S. does, and people like Pat Robertson would probably end up in court if they said that in Europe.
Melon
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:
No, I´m not a premium member. Thats why it is very polite to reply right here.
So you reject Robertson´s statements, that´s good to know.
Next question: Since you say you reject them, can one suppose
A) you don´t think the Christian Coalition of America* is a good and righteous representation for Christians (conservative, liberal, evangelists, Catholics, wherever one stands in the wide spectrum)?
Or
B) do you reject the comments of Robertson in that specific case and would rather think that generally, the Christian Coalition of America is an organization that represents the Bible´s righteous teachings?
*the organization of Robertson, which is described as being the "largest and most active conservative grassroots political organization in America" on its website
nbcrusader said:
I would point out that his comment was not a religious one, in that there was no "Jesus wants Chavez killed" or any other such nonsense. From my perspective, Robertson is a politician, and not a very good one at that.
nbcrusader said:Given that, I would not say that the Christian Coalition of America is a good representation of Christianity.
deep said:
You do realize this was on the Christian Broadcast Network
where they recieve tax exempt status as a
religious organization
I would point out that his comment was not a religious one, in that there was no "Jesus wants Chavez killed" or any other such nonsense. From my perspective, Robertson is a politician, and not a very good one at that. [/B]