Medical Marijuana - Page 2

U2Bama · 08-05-2001, 03:07 PM

I guess legalizing it would mean you could go out and buy it like you could a carton of milk, or maybe more like you would buy a bottle of vodka, with certain age restrictions and such.

De-criminalizing it would mean that it would be a violation to possess it, but punishable by a small fine instead of jail time.

~U2Alabama

anitram · 08-05-2001, 09:22 PM

Canada is a relatively progressive country, and I'm thankful for that.

But realistically, the rest of the world isn't exactly racing to go and de-criminalize marijuana or even legalize it in cases of the terminally ill. In the US, so long as the "secular" government continues to take marching orders from the right wing conservatives, marijuana will remain an illegal drug.

bonoman · 08-05-2001, 09:22 PM

Yeah this fine doesnt have to be small at all.

I think the bigger the better. Why not. Charge then 200$. I will guarentee that a 200$ fine will make a kid think more then going to a aversion program. I have been caught by a sop with weed. Wasnt mine but i was in the car. It was 2/3 of a gram. 0o0o0o. Well they were not going to charge me. They told me i had to write an essay. And make a poster. Thats all. Took me 20 minutes. 200$ wont take me 20 minutes to find. maybe 40 hrs of work.

De-criminalization is our only option. Courts dont scare people that are under 18. Why would it? Your record(at least in Canada) is erased at 18. You could have killed someone it will be gone at 18.

As we get older weed will become more and more accepted in society. It already is being accepted in Canada.

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U2Bama · 08-06-2001, 02:32 AM

Perhaps "decriminalization" is a somewhat reasonable approach, but like rougerum, I believe the penalites should remain strict for teenagers at least. There is no reason it should be easier for them (or anyone) to get; it does not do any good for people who want to get high other than getting them high.

And bonoman you are the exception if it has not led you to other drugs. ALL of my friends who are pot smokers have pursued and often developed habits with other drugs. Unfortunately that's the truth.

~U2Alabama

DrTeeth · 08-06-2001, 02:58 AM

What's the difference between decriminalizing and legalizing? Won't the effects be the same?

SicilianGoddess · 08-06-2001, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rougerum:
I would keep sending them to court and even jail just to scare the shit out of them even more because smoking weed can lead to even more dangerous drugs. ~rougerum

Not that I want to tell everyone this, but I've been smoking occasionally *cough* for the past 10 years. I have never wanted to stray to more dangerous drugs. I'm not stupid, it hasnt effected my ability to be normal like some people think it does. But I dont think it should be legalized. I think it would cause more problems.

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bonoman · 08-07-2001, 12:01 PM

hahaha...siccy you smoke pot!!

I never would have guessed!

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edgiot · 08-07-2001, 12:27 PM

I for one am happy. Out here in British Columbia, Marajuana is the number one industry. Billions of dollars a year. And we grow the best weed. B.C. weed is constantly winning awards in Amsterdam. We will be the most prosperous province in Canada. The whole legalization issue is just a means to de-centralize power from Ontario. The Liberals just haven't figured it out yet. They actually think it has medicinal value.

SicilianGoddess · 08-07-2001, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bonoman:
hahaha...siccy you smoke pot!!
I never would have guessed!

You probly wouldnt guess a lot of things about me.

Like I work on my car by me self, change the oil every 3000 miles, by me self, I can play ping pong, air hockey, darts, and pool very well.

More to come later......

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rougerum · 08-07-2001, 01:33 PM

SG, realize how my comment didn't say everyone, but that it CAN lead to much more dangerous drugs and to people that smoke pot a lot, it usually does.

~rougerum

Trash Can · 08-07-2001, 05:02 PM

Hmmmm...

I wonder how many people here have "inhaled" at one point or another.

I have. Years ago. About 5 or 6 times over the span of 5 years or so.

I'm a "wild man", eh???

Thing is... most of those times I was totally drunk beforehand... so I never got the "true effects".

Anyway, that was another guy... a guy who was "lost in his 20s".

... now I'm a guy how is.. well, "trying to read the map", in his 30's.

So... Do YOU party, dude?????

Bloodied · 08-07-2001, 05:55 PM

I am not trying to take sides in this.

I think one arguement the people in favor of legalizing pot is because of where people get the pot. Since you cant get it legally, people resort to drug dealers to buy it. These drug dealers are the ones exposing the people who use pot to more harmful drugs like heroin. Thus, by legalizing it, you remove that contact, possibly lowering the use of seriously harmful drugs.

Another reason pot is used medicinally is because it stimulates appetite in people whose medication makes them naseous and unable to eat.

Keep in mind, this is not my opinion, I read it in Maclean's (a Canadian weekly news magazine).

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SicilianGoddess · 08-18-2001, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hitman:
oh and Sicilian Goddess, you sound like my dream woman!

Send yer pic my way..

LOL @ Nate...

I am not your normal spazz matic, oh i need to go get my nails and hair done hee hee like omigod a car? What the hell is a manifold kinda girl.

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Nate Dogg · 08-19-2001, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SicilianGoddess:
Send yer pic my way..

LOL @ Nate...

I am not your normal spazz matic, oh i need to go get my nails and hair done hee hee like omigod a car? What the hell is a manifold kinda girl.

hhmmmm...brunette, changes own oil, likes U2.......(adding your points up).....

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Sometimes I feel like checking out
I wanna get it wrong
Can't Always be strong
And love it won't be long..."

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Hitman · 08-19-2001, 02:04 AM

I really like pot...to tell you the truth. I'm not pot head, but it can be a lot of fun to smoke a blunt on a Saturday afternoon once in a while and chill. Have you ever smoked pot Rougerum? If you haven't, how can you comment on it's effects? Drugs such as cocaine and heroin are life killers, and extremely addictive. There is nothing wrong with pot, like Sicilian Goddess said its a freaking plant for gods sake. Do you really think people should not have the right to have a beer? Thats insane. Iraq may be a good place for you if thats what you think, people there have no rights to do anything....

Hitman · 08-19-2001, 02:06 AM

oh and Sicilian Goddess, you sound like my dream woman!

Henry Rollins · 08-19-2001, 02:18 AM

I have smoked pot before and the fact that it is natural doesn't mean it is good. How many other countless plants that are posionous happen to be natural as well. What I have against pot is the only purpose it serves is to get high which is basically get intoxicated and I don't believe people have a right to get intoxicated. Oh yeah you will make the excuse you are doing it in the privacy of your own home but that doesn't matter, when I see the figures of how intoxication is connected with child abuse and how the major problems in america now are how families aren't staying together and that is causing so many problems with the kids. Parents are being forced to work more and more leaving their kids alone or at a daycare center fighting for the attention of 3 adults who are watching around 30 kids. Pot has proven to have no legitimate medical purpose. Everyone in the scientific community says that. So I ask why do you want to add yet another drug into this society when we are falling so far behind with running society to a good level now. All pot would do is add on to the problem.

~rougerum

Nate Dogg · 08-19-2001, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SicilianGoddess:
You probly wouldnt guess a lot of things about me.

Like I work on my car by me self, change the oil every 3000 miles, by me self, I can play ping pong, air hockey, darts, and pool very well.

More to come later......

wow.

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Nate

"Sometimes I feel like I dont' know
Sometimes I feel like checking out
I wanna get it wrong
Can't Always be strong
And love it won't be long..."

-Ultraviolet

melon · 08-19-2001, 05:40 AM

Nice retort, rougerum. I couldn't agree more. Of course, I always find it funny that:

1) they always ask if you've tried it

but,

2) if you say that you still don't like it, they think you either:

--> a) must not have have done enough, or
--> b) you're defective

How curious indeed. I hate all that shit. Period.

Melon

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SicilianGoddess · 08-19-2001, 09:54 PM

I can blow smoke rings with cigarette smoke. My thumbs bend backwards and I can put my legs behind my head. I can tie a cherry stem in a knot using nothing but my tongue.

More to come later..

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[This message has been edited by SicilianGoddess (edited 08-19-2001).]

08-05-2001, 03:07 PM	#21
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 10:39 PM	I guess legalizing it would mean you could go out and buy it like you could a carton of milk, or maybe more like you would buy a bottle of vodka, with certain age restrictions and such. De-criminalizing it would mean that it would be a violation to possess it, but punishable by a small fine instead of jail time. ~U2Alabama __________________

08-05-2001, 09:22 PM	#22
anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 11:39 PM	Canada is a relatively progressive country, and I'm thankful for that. But realistically, the rest of the world isn't exactly racing to go and de-criminalize marijuana or even legalize it in cases of the terminally ill. In the US, so long as the "secular" government continues to take marching orders from the right wing conservatives, marijuana will remain an illegal drug. __________________

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SicilianGoddess Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Smiley Land ? Posts: 4,462 Local Time: 08:39 PM	I can blow smoke rings with cigarette smoke. My thumbs bend backwards and I can put my legs behind my head. I can tie a cherry stem in a knot using nothing but my tongue. More to come later.. ------------------ Sicilian Women Are More Dangerous Than Shotguns My Website [This message has been edited by SicilianGoddess (edited 08-19-2001).] __________________

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08-05-2001, 09:22 PM	#23
bonoman Refugee Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmonton, Canada- Charlestown, Ireland Posts: 1,398 Local Time: 08:39 PM	Yeah this fine doesnt have to be small at all. I think the bigger the better. Why not. Charge then 200$. I will guarentee that a 200$ fine will make a kid think more then going to a aversion program. I have been caught by a sop with weed. Wasnt mine but i was in the car. It was 2/3 of a gram. 0o0o0o. Well they were not going to charge me. They told me i had to write an essay. And make a poster. Thats all. Took me 20 minutes. 200$ wont take me 20 minutes to find. maybe 40 hrs of work. De-criminalization is our only option. Courts dont scare people that are under 18. Why would it? Your record(at least in Canada) is erased at 18. You could have killed someone it will be gone at 18. As we get older weed will become more and more accepted in society. It already is being accepted in Canada. ------------------ Running to Stand Still-"you gotta cry without weeping, talk without speaking, scream without raising your voice." "we're not burning out we're burning up...we're the loudest folk band in the world!"-Bono

08-06-2001, 02:32 AM	#24
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 10:39 PM	Perhaps "decriminalization" is a somewhat reasonable approach, but like rougerum, I believe the penalites should remain strict for teenagers at least. There is no reason it should be easier for them (or anyone) to get; it does not do any good for people who want to get high other than getting them high. And bonoman you are the exception if it has not led you to other drugs. ALL of my friends who are pot smokers have pursued and often developed habits with other drugs. Unfortunately that's the truth. ~U2Alabama

08-06-2001, 02:58 AM	#25
DrTeeth Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Q continuum Posts: 4,770 Local Time: 04:39 AM	What's the difference between decriminalizing and legalizing? Won't the effects be the same?

08-07-2001, 12:01 PM	#27
bonoman Refugee Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmonton, Canada- Charlestown, Ireland Posts: 1,398 Local Time: 08:39 PM	hahaha...siccy you smoke pot!! I never would have guessed! ------------------ Running to Stand Still-"you gotta cry without weeping, talk without speaking, scream without raising your voice." "we're not burning out we're burning up...we're the loudest folk band in the world!"-Bono

08-07-2001, 12:27 PM	#28
edgiot Babyface Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Posts: 13 Local Time: 03:39 AM	I for one am happy. Out here in British Columbia, Marajuana is the number one industry. Billions of dollars a year. And we grow the best weed. B.C. weed is constantly winning awards in Amsterdam. We will be the most prosperous province in Canada. The whole legalization issue is just a means to de-centralize power from Ontario. The Liberals just haven't figured it out yet. They actually think it has medicinal value.

08-07-2001, 01:33 PM	#30
rougerum Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: atlantis Posts: 171 Local Time: 03:39 AM	SG, realize how my comment didn't say everyone, but that it CAN lead to much more dangerous drugs and to people that smoke pot a lot, it usually does. ~rougerum

08-07-2001, 05:02 PM	#31
Trash Can Acrobat Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 399 Local Time: 03:39 AM	Hmmmm... I wonder how many people here have "inhaled" at one point or another. I have. Years ago. About 5 or 6 times over the span of 5 years or so. I'm a "wild man", eh??? Thing is... most of those times I was totally drunk beforehand... so I never got the "true effects". Anyway, that was another guy... a guy who was "lost in his 20s". ... now I'm a guy how is.. well, "trying to read the map", in his 30's. So... Do YOU party, dude?????

08-07-2001, 05:55 PM	#32
Bloodied The Fly Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 78 Local Time: 03:39 AM	I am not trying to take sides in this. I think one arguement the people in favor of legalizing pot is because of where people get the pot. Since you cant get it legally, people resort to drug dealers to buy it. These drug dealers are the ones exposing the people who use pot to more harmful drugs like heroin. Thus, by legalizing it, you remove that contact, possibly lowering the use of seriously harmful drugs. Another reason pot is used medicinally is because it stimulates appetite in people whose medication makes them naseous and unable to eat. Keep in mind, this is not my opinion, I read it in Maclean's (a Canadian weekly news magazine). ------------------ "...and a thousand slimy things did crawl upon the slimy sea..."

08-19-2001, 02:04 AM	#35
Hitman Acrobat Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: New York Posts: 429 Local Time: 03:39 AM	I really like pot...to tell you the truth. I'm not pot head, but it can be a lot of fun to smoke a blunt on a Saturday afternoon once in a while and chill. Have you ever smoked pot Rougerum? If you haven't, how can you comment on it's effects? Drugs such as cocaine and heroin are life killers, and extremely addictive. There is nothing wrong with pot, like Sicilian Goddess said its a freaking plant for gods sake. Do you really think people should not have the right to have a beer? Thats insane. Iraq may be a good place for you if thats what you think, people there have no rights to do anything....

08-19-2001, 02:06 AM	#36
Hitman Acrobat Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: New York Posts: 429 Local Time: 03:39 AM	oh and Sicilian Goddess, you sound like my dream woman!

08-19-2001, 02:18 AM	#37
Henry Rollins The Fly Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LA Posts: 82 Local Time: 03:39 AM	I have smoked pot before and the fact that it is natural doesn't mean it is good. How many other countless plants that are posionous happen to be natural as well. What I have against pot is the only purpose it serves is to get high which is basically get intoxicated and I don't believe people have a right to get intoxicated. Oh yeah you will make the excuse you are doing it in the privacy of your own home but that doesn't matter, when I see the figures of how intoxication is connected with child abuse and how the major problems in america now are how families aren't staying together and that is causing so many problems with the kids. Parents are being forced to work more and more leaving their kids alone or at a daycare center fighting for the attention of 3 adults who are watching around 30 kids. Pot has proven to have no legitimate medical purpose. Everyone in the scientific community says that. So I ask why do you want to add yet another drug into this society when we are falling so far behind with running society to a good level now. All pot would do is add on to the problem. ~rougerum

08-19-2001, 05:40 AM	#39
melon ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ásgarðr Posts: 11,789 Local Time: 11:39 PM	Nice retort, rougerum. I couldn't agree more. Of course, I always find it funny that: 1) they always ask if you've tried it but, 2) if you say that you still don't like it, they think you either: --> a) must not have have done enough, or --> b) you're defective How curious indeed. I hate all that shit. Period. Melon ------------------ �Confused by thoughts, we experience duality in life. Unencumbered by ideas, the enlightened see the one reality.� - Hui-neng (638-713)