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I really think the only thing that will have any effect long term is to tell as many people as you can about it. That goes for all of us -- the more people that tell their insurance/health care access woes the less the people and companies against health care reform will be believed when they say "our current system is just fine." If you know 30 people who have such issues you are going to be a whole lot less likely to believe the insurance lobby's bullshit than if you know only one or two people with problems getting/paying for insurance/health care. It doesn't help you (or me) right now, but it might spur a desperately needed overhaul of the whole system before you go completely broke (I'm already there ![]() |
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i'm a freelancer/permalancer, so i have to buy my own insurance directly from BCBS. there is no HR to speak of. where's Canada? |
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That's rough. Is it because of the accident at the swimming pool? This guy is willing to say anything. |
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I am self employed and started buying insurance from Blue Cross just this last year. My premium started at $460 a month and within 6 months was bumped to $540 a month. My policy has a $2400 a year deductible which I had paid out in about 5 months. |
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Here you go:
Women! Collins Likely to Join Snowe in Support of Obamacare You've probably become a little desensitized to this and his racist remarks. |
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And no, I recognize real racism (and hypocrisy- see my Olbermann clip) when I see it, and I don't see it listening to Rush. I know people love to paint Rush a racist, as evidenced by the past week or so of people in the "news" saying Rush has made certain statements that he simply has never made. |
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I'm sorry if you don't see it...
![]() He knew what he was saying, that's why he made the delay joke. It was pretty obvious. And like I've said before and you haven't even tried defending it, "Magic Negro" one of his most obvious racist on-air moves... yet the right just sweep it under the rug. |
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wow. what do other people pay? |
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But go on confusing being provocative with hating black people. |
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How can you not see that he's implying that it's their "female-ness" that's causing them to vote this way. I don't know how he could be any clearer! You need to cut this guy loose, 2861. . .you're better than this, you're smarter than this, you don't need him cluttering your worldview. |
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Even my father, who is a Rush fan, admits he is sexist. "Reporterette, anchorette, authorette"--he makes it clear he is using it as a diminutive. He is consistent in that, I'll give him that.
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I just hope others don't follow your footsteps if they do and give up too soon, then the racists and sexist of your movement will win...
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I feel like we're not nearly angry enough about this.
Over 60% of the country want some form of legitimate public healthcare. Unless the House gets their way, we won't get it. These insurance companies don't give a shit about anyone's health, if they had their way, they'd continue denying people coverage for any and every reason. They just denied a baby because according to them he was obese which, according to them, is a pre-existing condition. When the media tore them apart, they covered the baby. But even then IT WAS A PR DECISION, NOT A HEALTHCARE DECISION! IT WAS STILL ABOUT PROTECTING PROFIT. Yes, if the proposed bill is signed, it will be illegal to deny people for pre-existing conditions, but that hardly changes the fact that many, many of our elected officials - and I'm talking about Democrats here, Republicans are a lost cause - are still letting this industry, these companies that would rather watch babies be sick than risk losing money, dictate healthcare policy via holding past and future campaign contributions over their heads. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. So many of our elected officials are not making their decisions based on the wishes of their constituents, but based on what will guarantee that their next campaign will be financed. If this isn't the very definition of corrupt government, I don't know what is. Now, is this new? Of course not. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be furious about it. If that isn't bad enough, the Democratic leaders - Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc - also want to simply 'win' so bad that they're willing to 'win' with a watered down bill. They'd rather make the layup than miss the three. And I'm sorry, BVS, but I just can't believe that incremental change is the answer. If/when the private healthcare industry is finally put out on its ass, it won't be incremental, it will be a sweeping, dramatic change. Healthcare reform was supposed to be about giving us more choice. Because the spineless congress has catered to the health insurance industry's wishes, we could end up with a bill that has no public element of any kind, and that forces people who already have health insurance to keep it rather than switch to a better alternative if one becomes available. That sounds like the opposite of 'more choice' to be. The only thing of any significance this bill, if it is signed, will do for us is make it illegal for insurance companies to deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions and, frankly, I'm shocked the industry hasn't been screaming and bitching and crying about that to congress in recent weeks. I just feel like this whole healthcare thing is highlighting and magnifying everything that's work with Washington. We should be angrier. |
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He's lagging way behind. |
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Them womenfolk should really stop caring about their fellow human beings. And God knows Olympia Snowe can't think for herself and reach an informed and intelligent decision.
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