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VintagePunk said:
Oh, that's funny. But tell me - how many babies are put at risk every year because of the US health care system? How many expectant mothers are foregoing prenatal care? How many don't give birth under proper circumstances? Why is your infant mortality rate higher than many other western nations, including those with socialized health care?
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It's higher by about 1 death.
 
VintagePunk said:
Oh, that's funny. But tell me - how many babies are put at risk every year because of the US health care system? How many expectant mothers are foregoing prenatal care? How many don't give birth under proper circumstances? Why is your infant mortality rate higher than many other western nations, including those with socialized health care?
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our diversity -- in every sense of that word -- that does not have an equal in other Western nations.

i'm for serial.
 
HyperU2 said:
It's higher by about 1 death.
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so our health care only sucks a little bit more than others?

or did you mean that, yes, it is higher in the US, despite claims that our magical free market health care falls short of other nations with evil socialist health care?
 
HyperU2 said:
They should probably have been more concerned with prenatal care then.
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:lol: it isn't always that simple. sometimes miscarriages happen and babies die even if the mother took excellent care of herself throughout the entire stage of pregnancy. the world isn't just black and white, good and bad. but i really don't feel like getting into this with you.
 
:lol: i'm just saying. for example, not every baby born with downs syndrome developed it because mommy couldn't put down the vodka. sometimes things just happen. sometimes you follow everything the doctor and parenting books tell you to the letter, and you come to check on them in the morning and find they died in their sleep. it's sad and horrible, i'm not denying that, but to paint every defect and death with the same brush isn't right.
 
I'm not painting them all with the same brush. My only point was, to say that we're lagging behind the EU because we have one more death per thousand births is a load of shit.
 
HyperU2 said:
I'm not painting them all with the same brush. My only point was, to say that we're lagging behind the EU because we have one more death per thousand births is a load of shit.
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the point is that the EU has better health than we do, and their citizens don't go bankrupt paying bills because they're so poor and stupid they get cancer.
 
Better health how? One less death, and a lower cancer survival rate? Great. Or is it the one year longer life expectancy?
 
HyperU2 said:
Better health how? One less death, and a lower cancer survival rate? Great. Or is it the one year longer life expectancy?
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yes, they have better health because of the things you've noted, as well as lower incidents of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

AND they don't go bankrupt paying for their child's chemo.



you're really not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
 
Irvine511 said:
yes, they have better health because of the things you've noted, as well as lower incidents of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

AND they don't go bankrupt paying for their child's chemo.



you're really not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
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How much are you willing to pay out of pocket in taxes for "free" healthcare so that our numbers stay the same?
 
HyperU2 said:
How much are you willing to pay out of pocket in taxes for "free" healthcare so that our numbers stay the same?
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considering i purchase my own healthcare at $200 a month, probably about that much.

and, again chief, it's not about the numbers, it's about the fact that the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US is sky-high medical bills, *and* the fact that health insurance costs are going to continue to skyrocket unless there's an actual alternative to the profit-driven insurance industry.
 
BVS said:
You're not very good with numbers and statistics.
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Sorry how do you mean? We live to be 78 the UK live to be 79, they lose 5 infants, we lose 6.


This shit I didn't come up with.

Cancer_Survival_Rates.jpg
 
Irvine511 said:
considering i purchase my own healthcare at $200 a month, probably about that much.

and, again chief, it's not about the numbers, it's about the fact that the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US is sky-high medical bills, *and* the fact that health insurance costs are going to continue to skyrocket unless there's an actual alternative to the profit-driven insurance industry.
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Yeah you're right. I pay $40 a month, I guess it sucks to be you.
 
martha said:
No. It's time to get tough. People need to take care of themselves. No more blaming anyone else for your fuckups or shitty situations. Take responsibility.
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It's time to coddle people from birth to grave, if they want to be on Meth I should buy it for them.
 
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