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Old 05-31-2005, 10:28 AM   #21
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But I understand the motive: you want this thread to stay a clean and nice and perfect Memorial thread, so we can all hail our wonderful God-blessed troops and honored armies, hooray! and God forbid anyone says anything negative about fighting or soldiers or war or your fucking American nationalism that really makes me vomit.

Excuse me? Me and my fucking American nationalism? Are you refering to me specifically or Americans in general? And why would you presume to know what my motives are?

Wow. I guess I was under the mistaken impression that we were friends and we could respectfully disagree with each other without resorting to insults.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:37 AM   #22
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Yeah, me too.

For heaven's sake.

We all know that war is hellish and that innocent people suffer because of it. But we all also know that veterans do deserve our respect.

I understand that subjects should be open for debate, and maybe I would have an easier time with letting even "memorial" threads be open for debate if the debate could be a little more peaceful and respectful.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:50 AM   #23
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Excuse me? Me and my fucking American nationalism? Are you refering to me specifically or Americans in general? And why would you presume to know what my motives are?

Wow. I guess I was under the mistaken impression that we were friends and we could respectfully disagree with each other without resorting to insults.
Nope I am not referring to you as a person, I am referring to a specific mindset that dominates this thread and obviously the view of many Americans.

Sure we are friends and can respectfully disagree. Also about American nationalism, if you desire so. If you had the feeling that my personal respect towards you was missing, sorry for that.

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edit: ehm didn´t I mention the book? I wrote another sentence in one of the edits.. its Norman Mailer´s "The Naked and the Dead". Highly recommended.
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"Fucking American nationalism that really makes me vomit" might have tipped her off.

Just saying.
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This thread was meant as a memorial day thread to honor US troops who have died defending the United States. Please take your political views and discuss them in another thread.
Maybe you should take your memorial threath too a i love war forum instead of a genaral international forum.
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Maybe you should take your memorial threath too a i love war forum instead of a genaral international forum.


I was going to give this thread a chance to return to civilized debate, but I don't see it happening.

EDITED TO SAY: I think that it *could* have been possible to honor all troops in this thread, not just American ones (even though it is, as BAW pointed out, an American holiday), and perhaps *even* to honor those troops, who fought after all for the right to free speech (among other things), with civilized debate on the nature of wars and what they do to the men and women who serve in them. Lest it be said that I singled out the non-American dissenters in my criticism of this thread, I think perhaps EVERYONE in this thread could have been more respectful of the opposing viewpoints.

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