liberals

[megadrum2002]

let me say this about all thats been on tv about the iragi situation aswell as things in this country too.


1. ECONOMY all liberals that i have ever met are blaming bush for all that is wrong with the economy. firsty of all bush came into office with the country allready into recession. lets not forget the attack on the world trade center, the pentagon. and the plane that crashed into the woods. the stock market that is always high never changes to go really hi, to go that hi it needs to go down to gain momentum with new business owners. With all these people complaining about how bush sux is not going to het him out of office. Investors do not want to put money into something that is always getting talled or complained about. instead of complaining about how bad our president is lets put the same energy into a solution to support and help bush whether you like him or not. In life your always going to have to get along with people you dont always like. im sure if everybody did this investors would feel more secure in putting there money where it is trusted. If bush is haveing troubles in some areas attack after attack from democrats is not going to help this country. im not a fan of bush myself but he has my support and respect nomatter what i think of him. Bush is the president and im going to resplect that, going around complaining about what he has done bad is not going to change anything but make other people more pissed. lets unite as a country and wake up to the opinion of the rest of the world. Lets set the example and standard for the rest of the world.


IRAQ His name is soddom husein and he is a murder of his own people and has many chemical weapons that are not accounted for. this guy is a modern day hittler and peole are apposed to going to take this guy down? sheral crow at the grammys is opposed to war? people like her think peace talks are going to find these weapons aswell as make hussein stop doing what he does? all these peace talks are doing is giving him time to make and hide more weapons of mass destructions. terrorists want nothing more then to have more time. another issue is going in alone to war. what the hell we have the entire world behind us except to 2 countrys and the democrats say well we need everybody aswell as go saying that nobody is behind us BULLSHIT. 6 months ago a resulution was given to the u.n. to be passed togo to war and support bush, the votes was 15 to 0 in favor togo to war. is that not enought to have the u.n. and the 95 percent of the world to go to war? the families and innocent people of irag need relief badly. lets give these a country they can be proud of.


many people are against war and think there is no reason to ever go to war. well sherlyl crow i ask you this if we were getting attacked would that make you believe that it was necesarry?

me personnally, i hate war its our sons and daughters who are going to get killed and it might be alot more then 96 too. im really sad that this is going to happen but i think this mad mad in iraq needs to go down to protect and prevent hundreds of lives in the future from being killed. i hate war but i do think it is necessary when certain situations arrive. aslong as there is evil people there will be war.

 

[melon]

1. ECONOMY -- Fixing an economy is not spending yourself silly in military toys and then offering multi-trillion dollar tax cuts in the middle of a recession. Top economists and even Alan Greenspan think that Bush's economic policy is terrible. What does that say to you? I do not like unconstructive criticism; what I offer are concrete grievances as to why I think Bush is a terrible president, and it would be un-American of me to give him respect that he hasn't deserved--much like what Saddam expects from his own people.

"Let's unite" = let's all shut up and act Republican. I say we unite as a country under the Democratic plans. What do you think?

IRAQ -- We aren't in a war with Iraq to destroy a dictator. It is about WMDs that we have inspections in place to find, remember? If this were about human rights, I think we would have had a war deposing Saddam a long time ago.

Welcome to Interference.com, BTW.

Melon

 

[megadrum2002]

lets not compare bush to soddom. giviing respect is not to give respect to bush personnaly but to his position. i dont just give respect to bush because he does everything to make myself happy

 

[Gickies Gageeze]

so cutting your TOTAL REVENUE by EIGHT PER CENT while driving up the defecit to unspeakable hights can be blamed on the previous administration?

i think not.

this admin is screwing things up for a long, long time. just read dreadsox's thread.

 

[diamond]

sometimes
money
is
not
the
most
important
thing..

DB9

 

[melon]

sometimes
money
is
not
the
most
important
thing..

DB9

tell
yourself
that.

just
imagine
if
the
GOP
got
the
balanced
budget
amendment
passed
in
1997?

we
would
be
up
shit
creek.

and
if
texas
is
any
indication,
bush
left
it
a
fiscal
disaster..

MN

 

[pub crawler]

LMAO.

 

[meegannie]

terrorists want nothing more then to have more time.

I COMPLETELY disagree.

 

[kobayashi]

are you not arguing against democracy?

american's should be able to criticize their president...right?

 

[sulawesigirl4]

i
love
kobesan
.

 

[Screaming Flower]

criticizing our our leaders is the great american pasttime.



hi kobesan.

 

[martha]

That was quite a rant that opened up this thread. It's a pretty serious support for.....

spell check!!!!!!!!

 

[kobayashi]

SF
sula

if bush and blair used your wisdom megadrum2002, empowerment rather than criticism, in their dealings with the UN-things would very likely be quite different right now.

 

[diamond]

i shall not me mocked

 

[pax]

I'm leaving this thread open against my better judgment, but let's try to keep things constructive. Megadrum, even though you're a newbie, please keep in mind that rants are generally not welcome in FYM (just ask Lemonite) and we ask that people keep threads topical and focused (see the "Gentle Reminder" note at the top of the FYM page). I'd PM you this but you're not Premium...sorry.

 

[verte76]

are you not arguing against democracy?

american's should be able to criticize their president...right?

Man, if there was a law against criticizing the president my whole family would be doing life. It's all we do these days. It's the democratic thing to do if you think the president is screwing up. It doesn't necessarily mean that you "hate the guy's guts" or want to screw him or whatever. If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.

 

[Beefeater]

I have no problem with people voicing their opposition to policy et al, and as much as it is American to b#tch, I have the right to call out many of the complainers as being Anti-American (if they are) or Anti-Bush (Which most of them are). For example, the girl basketball player who is turning her back on the flag during the national anthem. The irony is that these people opposing the Iraq situation, are opposing a situation, that when solved by the imminent military force, will allow them to continue their rants.

Megadrum... You referenced Sheryl Crow.. Did you see Fox and Friends yesterday with Brian Kilmeade interviewing Jeneane Garofolo?.. After watching that liberal disaster and her inability to produce a legit answer to a tough question, I guarantee you that you will care not one bit what Sheryl Crow or Martin Sheen or George Clooney thinks, as more often than not, they are less informed than you.

Let's talk about the Democrats policies, Much time is spent discussing the conservative policies.. I'd be interested in how the Democrats would like to go about things... The only policy suggestion i've seen out there is one for economic stimulus, and frankly, that was more of a joke than many think of Bush's Tax Cut plan.

Beefeater

 

[Kristie]

If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.

If you love your country you will try and improve it.

 

[nbcrusader]

If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.

Here Here!!! Constructive criticism is something we all could use and practice.

 

[Elvis]

i shall not me mocked

LOL... well if you aren't mocked... you sure the hell are typo'd

:mock: :mock: :mock:

 

[pax]

We need a "mock" smiley.

 

[martha]

Maybe one that points a finger and laughs.

 

[Sicy]

martha read my mind

 

[Sicy]

 

[elfyx]

are you not arguing against democracy?

american's should be able to criticize their president...right?

lol .. i argue against democracy all the time. there are serious problems with a democracy, and it is mindblowing to me why there is such a push to call the U.S. a democracy. It is not. It is a republic. Our founding fathers had a huge distaste for democracy, and made sure to create a republic. Why do we do this *all the time*. I think it's just a misnomer that's been passed down generation after generation. Who knows, maybe there is a more nefarious reason to it, but regardless, I think the *real* political spectrum is often misunderstood.

<-- individualism -- collectivism -->

A good government is somewhere in the middle (a republic). On one end you have 0% government: anarchy (the ultimate expression of individualism) where those with the biggest fists and weapons rule absolutely. On the other you have 100% government, the ultimate expression of collectivism being a totalitarian socialist system. But the spectrum is more of a closed circle than a line because when you reach an anarchy you can see that you're right back to being ruled by those with the most power.

And, yes, it is imperatively our duty to criticise our leaders. I hate the notion that is being pushed so heavily that you are not patriotic or are unamerican if you don't blindly accept everything the government does. That's insanity. But it's also the Bush administration's way...

 

[Klaus]

verte76: i agree with you - criticism should be constructive - no matter which style of government is used to run a coutnry.

It's just sad to see that the US government dosn't think this way when they comment countries/governments which dissagree to their opinion how to solve the Iraq problem.


elfyx: i agree with you - it's not easy to find a good compromise. But when i see todays republics and democracies i'm affraid they became verry corrupted - maybe a base democracy could be the better choice.


Klaus

 

[martha]

Re: martha read my mind

^

So when does this one become a smilie choice for us?

 

[verte76]

verte76: i agree with you - criticism should be constructive - no matter which style of government is used to run a coutnry.

It's just sad to see that the US government dosn't think this way when they comment countries/governments which dissagree to their opinion how to solve the Iraq problem.


Klaus

I agree. This stinks.