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Old 01-28-2006, 05:44 PM   #1
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Kuwaitis call for boycott of Danish goods

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/01/28/story242106.html


{sarcasm} Islam = Religion of Peace {sarcasm}
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laughable. ha.
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Hell, they can boycott. That's a right, too. I wouldn't call the picture of Mohammed with a bomb on his head in particularly good taste. I wonder if I'll see any demonstrations when I'm in Turkey?
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At least a boycott is peaceful.


I do find myself with a sudden need for some Havarti though....
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Hell, they can boycott. That's a right, too. I wouldn't call the picture of Mohammed with a bomb on his head in particularly good taste. I wonder if I'll see any demonstrations when I'm in Turkey?
Free speech doesn't require good taste however.
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Free speech doesn't require good taste however.
precisely. the thought that a religion must be placed beyond reproach is ridiculous.
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Free speech doesn't require good taste however.
I agree. Islamic societies tend to be pretty repressive in the expression department when it comes to taste matters and their Prophet. This stuff would get censored in practically every Islamic country. Freedom of speech doesn't exist in these societies, and in some of them neither does freedom of thought. It's illegal to be an atheist in Saudi Arabia, for example. If you say "there is no God" in Saudi Arabia you're asking for it.
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I agree. Islamic societies tend to be pretty repressive in the expression department when it comes to taste matters and their Prophet. This stuff would get censored in practically every Islamic country. Freedom of speech doesn't exist in these societies, and in some of them neither does freedom of thought. It's illegal to be an atheist in Saudi Arabia, for example. If you say "there is no God" in Saudi Arabia you're asking for it.
Yeah, I'd be doomed there. Hell, I get enough shit as it is here.
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Now them too?

Saudia Arabia has already boycotted us.


Lots of diplomacy going on at the moment as it seems, but our government is firm on this matter; the Danish law will not be changed, there will be no reductions in our civic rights.
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Lots of diplomacy going on at the moment as it seems, but our government is firm on this matter; the Danish law will not be changed, there will be no reductions in our civic rights.
That's good.

I'll go buy some havarti if that will help y'all....
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I'll look for Danish cheese at the store.
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So what's more deserving of anger? Muhammad with a bomb or "Piss Christ"? Or, for a more recent example, the conservative Christian furor over the short-lived NBC series, "The Book of Daniel"? They were ready for a boycott themselves for any advertisers of the series.

Religious zealotry is certainly not limited to Islam.

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No, but if I draw a picture of Jesus masturbating over Mary while being buggered by Joseph the government is not going to have every Christian country demanding an apology for offending those nations sensitivities. It is not going to see UN buerocrats making promises to "fix" the "problem". It is a free speech issue and I am 100% behind the cartoonists and Jyllands Posten and adamently opposed to governments who demand apologies and especially those who give them.

Making a film about Christian misogyny is not going to result in the director being sliced to death in the street and forcing those involved into hiding. I really wish it was in some ways because at least then there would be a genuine cause to say that Christianity and Islam are more or less the same in that respect.
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I listen to DANISH MUSIC 10 hours a day these days







If not for the cold.. i would have gone and settled in Denmark

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Latest developments:

Libya closes its embassy in Denmark

The rest of the Middle East joins the boycott.

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It's because you can't separate religion and politics in Islamic countries. I'd like to see a list of the boycotting countries. I think I'll visit the official Danish web site and tell them I'm going out and buying some Danish cheese. I saw some the other day at the store.
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It's because you can't separate religion and politics in Islamic countries. I'd like to see a list of the boycotting countries. I think I'll visit the official Danish web site and tell them I'm going out and buying some Danish cheese. I saw some the other day at the store.
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No formal apologies are due to anyone, but I hope the Danish government will choose to react with sorrow, rather than scorn and contempt, over the culture gap which has been laid bare here.

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the thought that a religion must be placed beyond reproach is ridiculous.
This is true, but it is also true (and the boycotting governments' statements reflect this) that Islam in the Arab world especially is as much a badge of national identity and national pride as it is a freestanding set of theological beliefs. It is not quite analogous to Martin Scorcese depicting Jesus having sexual fantasies, for example.

I do look skeptically upon the free-speech breastbeating of journalists and artists who lunge directly at the most volatile sacred cows in cheap and unreflective ways (even while FULLY sharing the revulsion at those who would kill, maim or for that matter, seek goverment intervention over it). Too often, their protestations smack of a cynical and disingenuous underlying agenda: they want to prove their targets terminally unworthy of membership in the same climate of free exchange of ideas which nurtures them, by provoking an ugly show of defensiveness which they know very well will advance their own hand. I really do hate to say this, I genuinely wish I did not perceive this ambiguity of intent there, but for better or worse I do sometimes see it and it does trouble me.

I recognize the dangers in this perspective, and appreciate that some art which may appear at first glance to be pure shock value (e.g. "Piss Christ") might on second thought be recognized as a thoughtful way of playing around with iconographies of taboo, the thin line between sacred and profane, etc. And yes, political cartoons as a genre do tend to be pretty blunt. But nonethless, while fully validating the rights of political artists and journalists to remain outspoken (and recognizing the unfeasability of quantifying precisely what constitutes "integrity"), I do think they also have a calling (*not for the state to enforce*) to uphold the integrity of their fields by not applying their skills to cheap and petty provocation for provocation's sake. Where's the "message" in that?

And melon is right to question who we (Americans at least) are to smugly congratulate ourselves on our own willingness to thoughtfully hear out stinging critiques of our integrity. I might add to his list the many Americans who participated in voluntary mass boycotts of French goods not so long ago, "until President Chirac apologizes to all Americans for putting us in danger" to quote the esteemed Monsieur O'Reilly.

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Making a film about Christian misogyny is not going to result in the director being sliced to death in the street and forcing those involved into hiding. I really wish it was in some ways because at least then there would be a genuine cause to say that Christianity and Islam are more or less the same in that respect.
Sorry, but--WTF?! That is quite a sick thing to say. On this logic, you should also be pleased "in some ways" when suicide bombers blow up discotheques, because at least they've shown us what trigger-happy morons piety reduces them to. Which if that really were the causative factor, half the world would be running around merrily slicing up artists all the time.
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