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Old 01-15-2002, 12:32 AM   #21
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The Shining was an absolute travesty. The movie did nothing for the brilliant book it was based on. Stephen King was deeply disappointed by the movie. Although the cinematography was fantastic I felt the rest of the film was poorly put together.
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Old 01-15-2002, 06:02 AM   #22
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I remember rougerum posted a thread on Kubrick and the latter's beliefs on aliens and God, yet many people opposed it.
I remember that thread, but that was more about Kubrick's ideas than his style.
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Assorted blips on Kubrick films:

"Lolita" is very amusing to me, particularly in doing a film on pedophilia during the very prudish 1950s.

I love "Dr. Strangelove." A very entertaining satire on Cold War hysteria.

"2001: A Space Odyssey" is a fantastic film, in my opinion. I can understand why it would put a lot of people off, but it doesn't negate my personal enjoyment of the film. It rightly deserves classic status.

"A Clockwork Orange" is enjoyable as well to me. I have no further comment on it.

"Eyes Wide Shut," to me, is more of an example of performance art than film. Why? I see it as Kubrick's last laugh on audiences and the media. The hype expected a porn film, and the public and the media harped on it. The trailers for it used the most racy scenes in the film...all of them, actually. But it wasn't a film on sex, nor was it a porn film. And while the right-wing was whining about morality and the rest were going to see it to appease their love of porn, it was nothing of the sort. Once again, I can understand why it would put people off, but, in a way, I think it was the way Kubrick, a known misanthropist, wanted to go, having the last laugh on the industry he loathed and the audiences he hated. A very peculiar man Kubrick was...

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Old 01-16-2002, 10:29 PM   #24
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Kubrick, a known misanthropist, wanted to go, having the last laugh on the industry he loathed and the audiences he hated.
That is the most insane comment ever. A comment that believes every single tabloid report and anything that his silence for the media has produced. Why would Kubrick loathe and hate the two things that kept him making the films he wanted to make. Why is it that when someone who is famous and doesn't feel like talking to the media all the time is labeled a misanthropist? Kubrick was in contact with people all the time, the fact is though, he preferred a family life and the thing is, there are millions of people who prefer this same life, just the fact is, they are not famous. If they were famous, they would have the same reaction, overwhelmed by it all and wanting a simpler life. It is no secret bringing your personal and private life into the spotlight is a way to ask it to be destroyed. I see more of your personal feelings against this man than any real truth, so next time, know what you are talking before your mouth is opened, that is the first rule here! And I would also like to clue you into the definition of a filmmaker: someone determined to extend film beyond its boundaries. When looked at Kubrick films that the general audience finds "difficult", it seems, with that definition in mind, he may be the one of the only filmmakers out there.

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Also, I expect a reply along the lines from Melon that I am 1.) too much a Kubrick enthusiast to see any judgement on him or 2.) he will take shots at me that have nothing to do with this topic. First of all, I welcome criticism on Kubrick. But what I want are criticisms based on facts and that lead to an interesting insight, not just a media and tabloid line that has been said for the past 20 years.

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Old 01-17-2002, 12:45 AM   #26
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Amusing...

I like the fact that Kubrick exiled himself from America and hated people. Or maybe not. I find it to be a compliment regardless. Kubrick is my favorite director, FYI. I guess one man's admiration is another man's insult.

As for post #2, meh...

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2001. amazing.
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Old 01-18-2002, 02:00 PM   #28
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This may be a big generalization, and I hope not such a stupid one, but it seems to me that Kubrick appeals more to men than women. I actually did like "Eyes Wide Shut" the second time I happened to catch it on cable, though I am loath to like Nicole Kidman in anything. The score, however, grated on my nerves (maybe that was the point, I don't know). I really haven't liked any of his other films and also think he is overrated.

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