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Geez, his mom called the cops and they ended up shooting him...she must feel like crap
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let's relax and take a step back, shall we?
there are conflicting reports from witnesses, one of which states that he was holding the hair bursh under his shirt, sticking it out as if it were a gun, and did not stop approaching when told to do so by the police. on top of that, the suspect was heard saying on the 911 call that he had a gun. and yes, i would imagine officers would be more on edge about a reported gun in a high crime area such as bed-sty as opposed to in a neighborhood with realtively little to no crime such as greenwich village. so would you, so would i. |
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Sounds like one of those lose-lose, hindsight is always 20/20 situations to me. Why didn't the kid just stop when they said so?
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the police are investigating the possibility that it was a "suicide by cop" situation.
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I'm thinking the history of mental illness might have had something to do with it. Ugly situation either way.
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If you're going to pretend to have a gun and not do what the police tell you to, I don't feel real bad for you if you get shot.
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let me just make myself clear in that i'm not saying the cops are innocent. and i'm not condeming this kid who obviously had serious problems. all i'm saying is that there are conflicting reports as to what actually happened, and that we should wait for a full investigation before we start labeling the cops as "trigger happy pigs."
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[q]41 shots and
Lena gets her son ready for school She says "on these streets, Charles You've got to understand the rules If an officer stops you Promise me you'll always be polite, that you'll never ever run away Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight" [/q] |
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But yeah, let's wait for a full on investigation because no matter what the outcome, it is a sad situation. |
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This is a terrible situation for all involved, we really should wait until more facts come out before we make some judgement like that. |
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I can understand if they fire a shot over the kid's head to show 'em they're serious, he keeps coming at the police, and THEN the cops open fire.
But to fire 20 shots at someone with no warning other than "stop" because they are walking towards you is trigger-happy, yeah. |
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for 4-5 persons to unload 20 shots would take about 2 seconds.
put yourself in the situation... you're in a neighborhood with a high crime rate. it's night time, visability is low. you're told the person in question has a gun. he's acting very strangely. he approaches you either with something in his hand or something hidden and pointing at you under a shirt or jacket that appears in the dim light that it could be a gun, yelling and acting highly unusual. you tell the person to stop. they keep coming at you. you have a split second to decide wether or not this person is a threat to send you home to your wife and kids in a box. if you choose not to shoot and it is a gun, you or your partners die. if you choose to shoot and you're wrong, you're a "trigger happy pig." |
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^ yup.
these things are a tragedy on many, many levels, and vastly more complex than anyone, on either "side," would ever want to give it credit. |
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![]() That's as may be, but like I said, fire a shot in the air or one shot into his leg to put him on the ground. Even better, because that way you stop him from coming, you'll know right away if he's got a gun or not, and you can arrest him, rather than kill him. Any way you slice it: 20 shots at one 18 year-old kid = itchy fingers. |
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a) if you fire a shot into the air, eventually it has to come down, thus putting innocent bystanders at risk of being killed. b) do you understand how difficult it is to hit a moving human being in the leg with a revolver? these are regular beat cops, not the swat team. odds are more than just "stop" was said by the officers before opening fire. probably more along the line of "stop and put down your weapon or we'll open fire." |
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