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Old 08-24-2007, 09:06 PM   #81
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The person we were discussing and the situation was about a sex offender/murderer.
Key word: murderer

This other tangent you went on, doesn't have that key word!!!
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i hate our justice system.
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[i] It totally boggled the mind that anyone could even THINK of defending this abominable excuse for a human being.[/B]
I agree, childkillers should be harshly dealt with by the law.

It boggles my mind, though, that people defend things like this.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:29 PM   #84
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Well I like what Jessica dad has to say:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/24...ml#cnnSTCVideo
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Well I like what Jessica dad has to say:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/24...ml#cnnSTCVideo
I admire that man very much.
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You know we can go on and on about this forever, and everyone is going to have their own opinions which is fine.

But, when someone like Jessicas killer or even Megans killer who Megans Law was named after moves into your neigbhorhood maybe people would feel differently.

The molesters in the above cases were guilty molesters first...then they turned into killers.
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I admire that man very much.
Its amazing the man can even function on a day to day basis.
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Yes, and the operative word is murderer. The 39 sex offenders in your area are sex offenders, not murderers.
Not yet anyway.

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The debate here wasn't about the jail time for sex offenders. That is an issue, of course, but it doesn't pertain to the death penalty discussion we had. We can discuss it separately, but you were referring to posts about a different topic.
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Vengence is up to God.

And where he is going to land thru out eternity will be up to God and what God's vengence is, God has all knowledge of our entire lives, our circumstance and situations. What degree of Hell this person suffers in, only God knows.

Our duty as a society is respect the rule of law, not be gleeful about an execution and send him to his Maker and let God decide what he is going to do with him.


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that doesn't make any sense at all.

vengence can and is exacted on humans by humans.

we're dealing with secular laws in a secular justice system. let's keep it secular, please.

it's amazing that justifications for the death penalty are held on religious grounds -- what if the executed is an atheist? you're so cavalier about sending him to "god" for quicker judgement, it's kind of sick, honestly.
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Not yet anyway.


You can't send people to life because they might become a killer!!!

If that was the case we'd all be in jail.
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I disagree with the DP on moral grounds and also because I don't think it's a deterrent. If it's not a practical deterrent, then as CTU2fan put it, the DP is no more than state-sponsored revenge, right?


very well said.
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I admire that man very much.
The man's been to hell and back, I admire he's still able to maintain.

But part of that speech made me cringe, you could tell someone pulled him aside and put their agenda in his mouth, and that just made me sick... the whole cutting back 4% thing just discusted me, there's a time and a place...
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^ then how come the 39 sex offenders living in my area are not in jail?

They served time but, it wasn't life.


a sex offender is a very, very wide definition, covering everything from rapists to someone who might have been convicted for indecent exposure. either way, they've committed a crime. and if someone commits a crime, and then does the time, are they not entitled to then get on with their lives? why is a sex offense any better or worse than robbing a 7-11?
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why is a sex offense any better or worse than robbing a 7-11?
Well I would admit that some sex crimes are worse than robbery, like you said there's a wide definition, but to equate it with murder is ridiculous.
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The molesters in the above cases were guilty molesters first...then they turned into killers.
True.

Very true.
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^ Jessica was from my town at one time and her dad from what I understand still lives here.

I say that he should be buried alive the same way she was, tortured and raped too. Good riddence for crap like him. Its just one left we have to worry about.

My thoughts exactly.
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so is anyone else alarmed or at least curious about the list i posted earlier?
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so is anyone else alarmed or at least curious about the list i posted earlier?
Depressed. We're in such lovely company.
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The biggest flaw in the idea of the death penalty is that there is always a chance that the person is actually not guilty. It happens. You hear and read the stories. Why take the chance that you are killing someone who is not guilty? The justice system is built on the idea that a guilty verdict derives from a belief beyond a reasonable doubt. Not certainty.
I want someone who's pro-DP to counter-argue this. I really do.
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