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Old 08-27-2001, 12:46 PM   #21
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Old 08-27-2001, 04:20 PM   #22
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Go cry a river rougerm. If your gay and dont want to admit it but getting defensive wont make us blind from the truth.

>>>>rougerm is Anthony;s boyfriend!

Wha? How did you arrive to that conclusion? What gave it away???

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Old 08-27-2001, 07:32 PM   #23
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It is strange and somewhat disappointing that not a single person here will come out, or that in fact there are NO gay U2 fans that frequent this Forum.
I find that hard to believe.
I guess it IS very easy for me to say, but I just figure if one is going to pick a safe spot to acknowledge ones lifestyle it would be in this type of internet forum setting. Your privacy and annonimity is assured, as long as you dont give anyone else your real name and such.
Anyway, I'm straight, but find NO problem with gays and lesbians. To label and condemn any one group as evil and sick is wrong and against the teachings of Jesus (for any Christians out there). It also indictates a whole mess of psychological weaknesses and fears that I wont get into right now.
I have gay friends and coworkers... and they are just regular people!... (yawwwwwwn)

Oz! What up friendgirl!!!?????
I hope youre okay and still churning out that artwork!
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Oh I'm sure there are gay people in this forum, but maybe some people are just tired of sounding like an after-school special and are very tired of repeating themselves, so they'd just rather see you squirm. The reality is that, in America at least, homosexuals are defined by their sexuality. The rest of the world is not. And some people just prefer to remain an enigma.

Culturally, though, I know this is not a big deal in some nations. I know for one that when I was in the U.K., I was shocked to hear that being gay was kind of "popular." What a stark contrast to America, which generally perceives it in black-and-white--either denigrating stereotypes or hate-mongering. Both ends of the U.S. spectrum make me sick.

[end rant]

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Oz! What up friendgirl!!!?????
I hope youre okay and still churning out that artwork!
God bless!

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Yes I am still tinkering around with all the graphics stuff and I will have some new pics put up some time soon, you are a great person Trash Can, I always like what you have to say
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Old 08-27-2001, 09:54 PM   #26
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Well said Henry. It is a private and personal matter. My cousin who I was very close to was gay and died of aids. Some of my family members were very down on him and could not understand his lifestyle. Boy do I miss him.

I'm sorry to hear that, tinydancer.

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Old 08-27-2001, 10:12 PM   #27
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Bonoman, that was a basic bad reply and also predictable in being in bad taste. I get that responce from eleven year olds when saying gays shouldn't talk about their sexuality, they just come back with the responce, "you must be gay." or anything near along the lines of me being gay or having a boyfriend. And to think Bonoman, that I actually considered to hold you up to a higher standard, guess that was foolish to do.

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ok you must have took that the wrong way.
I was joking. If you could read it again and not take everything so seriuosly. But i really could careless if you take it as a hit.

For what its worth, sorry for hurting your feelings. I'm sure i'll never live this one down...

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Oh I'm sure there are gay people in this forum, but maybe some people are just tired of sounding like an after-school special and are very tired of repeating themselves, so they'd just rather see you squirm. The reality is that, in America at least, homosexuals are defined by their sexuality. The rest of the world is not. And some people just prefer to remain an enigma.

Culturally, though, I know this is not a big deal in some nations. I know for one that when I was in the U.K., I was shocked to hear that being gay was kind of "popular." What a stark contrast to America, which generally perceives it in black-and-white--either denigrating stereotypes or hate-mongering. Both ends of the U.S. spectrum make me sick.

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Melon,
As much as a Patriot as I may come across to some people, I really agree with this. It really bothers me how some people are so self righteous and are so right, yet hate so much. Some people in America will broadly display their ignorance, as if it were a contest to see who is the stupidest. Unfortunately, those people always claim to be 'conservatives', but they are really just idiots. A lot of them don't even have a pot to piss in, but they are so correct in their beliefs that their so-called convictions are their undoing.

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As long as nobody is outing other people here, I don't see what the big deal is. People can choose to reply in any way they want or ignore the question.

Where I come from, it's no big deal, and people are generally not defined by their sexuality. I think you'd have to be pretty uptight to worry about other people's sexuality.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone else feel that men are much more insecure about these things than women? You know, all the old "dropping the soap" jokes?
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone else feel that men are much more insecure about these things than women? You know, all the old "dropping the soap" jokes?
That's true. You never see us men kissing eachother or complimenting eachothers looks.
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Which is just as well, because you cloggies already kiss too much. Birthdays, anniversaries, promotions, weddings, other people's weddings, winning 30 guilders in the lottery... heck, even "gehakt"-day. And is it done in an elegant way like the southern Europeans do it? Noooo, because here we like the element of surprise, don't we? So we don't make any rules about which side to start on. Result: mindless headbutting, broken specs, stray lipstick and open skull fractures! Bah!

Ummmm... this is a different discussion, isn't it? Okay, I'll go study up on integration now, byeeeeeeee!
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Oh, I was just reminded of an episode of Friends in which I think Joey needed someone to get something from his jeans pocket (keys, wallet, I don't remember), and when one of the other guys volunteered, he went all paranoid and weird. Very funny and realistic.
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It sounds as if you're not "woman' enough to handle a Dutch man Klodomir!

I remember that episode, very realistic! The though of another man putting his hand in my pocket EEEW!!
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