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Old 09-03-2003, 07:43 AM   #1
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John Kerry

I saw his campaign speech last night and I must say that it the most interesting speech I have heard from a politician in a long long time. I really really hope he gets in...of course, that is impossible
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Oh, I don't know about "impossible". I like Kerry. I could vote for him.
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If Wesley Clark doesn't run, I would vote for Kerry. But I was dissapointed in his anti-Iraq ranting when he voted for the war in Iraq.
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kerry, like most Americans, was misled by the Bush Administration. I did the same thing he did when I started to dig further into what Bush and Cheney were doing.

That being said, my vote is a tossup between Kerry and Dean. The candidates are supposedly debating tomorrow on Univision/PBS. I plan on watching.
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Dean is actually a lot more moderate than he is portrayed in the media. I think they are afraid of his early lead so try to pin the liberal label on him.
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You're right, Scarletwine. Dean isn't as liberal as some of the press has made him out to be. In fact he isn't liberal enough for some of my friends, who support Kucinich. I was disappointed in the votes for the war in Iraq, too, which I didn't agree with.
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Dean is actually a lot more moderate than he is portrayed in the media. I think they are afraid of his early lead so try to pin the liberal label on him.
Who is the "they" that is trying to pin the liberal label on Dean?
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Who is the "they" that is trying to pin the liberal label on Dean?
Some of the press. It's funny because he is being attacked from the left by Kucinich.
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"They" is every news anchor on tv. As well as the DLC (republicans in disguise) who support Leiberman.
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That's odd. "They" tend to be more liberal than conservative and tend to avoid left leaning labels.
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Where have you been?
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Old 09-03-2003, 11:58 PM   #12
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I cannot help but laugh at this. Stephanopolis DEM.... Russert DEM.... Cris Matthews DEM.....

The media in this country is more left of center than right..... The three former advisors start it off.

The national news media may be right based on some of the extreme left visible in this forum....But that is your perspective.
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If you find the American media to have liberal bias or leftist slant, then I wonder what you think of Canadian or European media? We've got to be off the chart.

As a non-American, I find most of the American media to be extremely conservative. It all depends on your perspective, I guess.
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Old 09-04-2003, 05:19 AM   #14
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See this is why Kerry cannot win.... We have stopped talking about him.
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See this is why Kerry cannot win.... We have stopped talking about him.
It might be why he's possibly not going to be the nominee, for that matter. Who knows? Clinton didn't get into the race until the fall of 1991, and look what happened!
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I cannot help but laugh at this. Stephanopolis DEM.... Russert DEM.... Cris Matthews DEM.....

The media in this country is more left of center than right..... The three former advisors start it off.

The national news media may be right based on some of the extreme left visible in this forum....But that is your perspective.
You are ....... Insane.

You are talking about some advisors who guest now and then on news channels. Cris Matthews is the only one that's on regularly.

There are probably a dozen ultra-conservative radio/tv hosts. Not advisors or guests, but HOSTS that hold the top spots in whatever market they are in. Fox News people freely talk about this all the time. they go on and on about how there are NO Democratic radio or tv shows with any real listenership.

There is no liberal presence on TV or Radio (the two top mediums that people go to for political coverage) Newspapers and in a magazines lean slightly left.
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Exclude Fox from your analysis and the ball shifts well to the left.


Besides, is there anyone here who relies on Fox for their news??
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It can depend on location, too, if you're talking about the local media. Here in the South the local media is more likely to be conservative. Both of the newspapers here in Birmingham are conservative. The Atlanta Constitution is liberal, but most of the other publications around here are conservative.
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This is a very laughable argument. TV and radio don't lean anywhere near the left. Just look at the corporations that own these medias...
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So corporate ownership is de facto proof of a conservative bias??

I doubt the main network anchors (ABC, NBC, CBS) would identify themselves on the right.
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