Jesus wants you to have a semi-automatic

anitram · 07-13-2008, 07:43 PM

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OKLAHOMA CITY -- An Oklahoma church canceled a controversial gun giveaway for teenagers at a weekend youth conference.

Windsor Hills Baptist had planned to give away a semiautomatic assault rifle until one of the event's organizers was unable to attend.

The church’s youth pastor, Bob Ross, said it’s a way of trying to encourage young people to attend the event. The church expected hundreds of teenagers from as far away as Canada.

“We have 21 hours of preaching and teaching throughout the week,” Ross said.

A video on the church Web site shows the shooting competition from last year’s conference. A gun giveaway was part of the event last year. This year, organizers included it in their marketing.

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Friday evening, Ross said the gun giveaway had been canceled. Pastor emeritus Jim Vineyard, who ran the event, injured his foot and wouldn’t be able to attend. The gun giveaway was also removed from the church Web site.

Ross said the church would give the gun away next year instead. He said the church spent $800 buying the gun for the promotion.

Off the Richter scale of stupidity.

deep · 07-13-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram

Off the Richter scale of stupidity.

What Would Jesus Do?

Gets the old Richter needle waving.

anitram · 07-13-2008, 07:46 PM

Thinking back to my high school days (sadly it's been a while), I can't imagine wanting to take my chances with some of those guys being in possession of a semi-automatic assault rifle....

2861U2 · 07-13-2008, 08:24 PM

Bob Ross?

BVS · 07-13-2008, 08:28 PM

Next week it's a barrell of whiskey and a lifetime supply of cigarettes.

angelordevil · 07-13-2008, 10:08 PM

"...The church expected hundreds of teenagers from as far away as Canada."

Jesus.

A_Wanderer · 07-13-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

Next week it's a barrell of whiskey and a lifetime supply of cigarettes.

I'd turn up

unforgettableFOXfire · 07-13-2008, 11:19 PM

Interestingly, when my grandpa was in highschool (he's turning 80, so, read that as in the 30s) there were gun lockers in the schools for the cadets and the scouts to keep their rifles in and so forth, and ne'er did anyone run afoul with them. I guess that was for Queen and Country, and not just the J-man, but it was a simpler time anyway. Kept their guns at school, and their kids from shootin' each other. Where have we lost our way?

**Diemen** · 07-13-2008, 11:48 PM

I'm so glad I don't live in Oklahoma anymore.

U2DMfan · 07-14-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

I'm so glad I don't live in Oklahoma anymore.

Yeah, because we are all ignorant rednecks.

**Diemen** · 07-14-2008, 12:03 AM

No not all, but religious fundamentalism (mixed in with gun culture) is a bit more prevalent there than in say, Oakland, CA.

U2DMfan · 07-14-2008, 12:16 AM

That's true Diemen but many people here were extremely appalled by this as well.
Even in rural areas.

It's not as if there is a passivity towards protecting children by gun toting religious fundies in general. However absurd I believe them to be. The issue is ignorance. Ignorance associated with guns.

Vincent Vega · 07-14-2008, 04:10 AM

Sometimes it's a petty I've left church.

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Originally Posted by unforgettableFOXfire

Interestingly, when my grandpa was in highschool (he's turning 80, so, read that as in the 30s) there were gun lockers in the schools for the cadets and the scouts to keep their rifles in and so forth, and ne'er did anyone run afoul with them. I guess that was for Queen and Country, and not just the J-man, but it was a simpler time anyway. Kept their guns at school, and their kids from shootin' each other. Where have we lost our way?

Must have been in the 40s (turning 80 now he was born in 1928). I can understand why they had their arms with them back then.
Today students also run around armed, but they are neither cadets nor scouts.

MrsSpringsteen · 07-14-2008, 07:40 AM

Yes, ignorance is hardly geographical

And I highly doubt that every member of that church supported that. Religious people can think for themselves and even possess intelligence.

A stor · 07-14-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by anitram

Story here.

Off the Richter scale of stupidity.

I totally agree. I have never heard of any church doing this. Wether it be Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox or Fundamentalist. It goes against the teachings of Christianity.

A stor · 07-14-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Yes, ignorance is hardly geographical

And I highly doubt that every member of that church supported that. Religious people can think for themselves and even possess intelligence.

So true. There is quite a bit of gun violence on the east coast.

And I agree. I am a spiritual person who attends a traditional Christian Church. I think for myself.

CTU2fan · 07-14-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2861U2

Bob Ross?

Hey I remember him! With the happy little birds and trees etc. I had a buddy who loved Bob Ross and could never understand why his pictures never came out like Bob's. I'm serious.

As for the assault rifle, well that's just stupid. When I started reading it I was thinking they were giving a gun away, that's questionable, but maybe it's a regular rifle or shotgun for hunting. But no...and I'm just thinking, "wow". Do you ever wonder how stuff like this happens? How does the conversation go from "why don't we have a raffle" to "you know what would really bring 'em in? an assault rifle".

maycocksean · 07-14-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

. Religious people can think for themselves and even possess intelligence.

Even! Love that "even", Mrs. S

maycocksean · 07-14-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CTU2fan

Hey I remember him! With the happy little birds and trees etc. I had a buddy who loved Bob Ross and could never understand why his pictures never came out like Bob's. I'm serious.

As for the assault rifle, well that's just stupid. When I started reading it I was thinking they were giving a gun away, that's questionable, but maybe it's a regular rifle or shotgun for hunting. But no...and I'm just thinking, "wow". Do you ever wonder how stuff like this happens? How does the conversation go from "why don't we have a raffle" to "you know what would really bring 'em in? an assault rifle".

Well, to tell the truth, the boys in my 8th grade class would have been there in a heartbeat. They'd give their right eye for an assault rifle.

They also really, really shouldn't have assault rifles.

deep · 07-14-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Religious people can think for themselves and even possess intelligence.

Within limits, we do not want any heresy.

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07-13-2008, 07:46 PM	#3
anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 08:29 PM	Thinking back to my high school days (sadly it's been a while), I can't imagine wanting to take my chances with some of those guys being in possession of a semi-automatic assault rifle....

07-13-2008, 08:24 PM	#4
2861U2 Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: watching the Cubs Posts: 4,271 Local Time: 07:29 PM	Bob Ross?

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BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 07:29 PM	Next week it's a barrell of whiskey and a lifetime supply of cigarettes.

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angelordevil Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Inside a sound Posts: 5,830 Local Time: 09:59 PM	"...The church expected hundreds of teenagers from as far away as Canada." Jesus.

07-13-2008, 11:19 PM	#8
unforgettableFOXfire I serve MacPhisto Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,053 Local Time: 07:29 PM	Interestingly, when my grandpa was in highschool (he's turning 80, so, read that as in the 30s) there were gun lockers in the schools for the cadets and the scouts to keep their rifles in and so forth, and ne'er did anyone run afoul with them. I guess that was for Queen and Country, and not just the J-man, but it was a simpler time anyway. Kept their guns at school, and their kids from shootin' each other. Where have we lost our way?

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Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,674 Local Time: 07:29 PM	I'm so glad I don't live in Oklahoma anymore.

07-14-2008, 12:03 AM	#11
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,674 Local Time: 07:29 PM	No not all, but religious fundamentalism (mixed in with gun culture) is a bit more prevalent there than in say, Oakland, CA.

07-14-2008, 12:16 AM	#12
U2DMfan Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: It's Inside A Black Hole Posts: 6,637 Local Time: 06:29 PM	That's true Diemen but many people here were extremely appalled by this as well. Even in rural areas. It's not as if there is a passivity towards protecting children by gun toting religious fundies in general. However absurd I believe them to be. The issue is ignorance. Ignorance associated with guns.

07-14-2008, 07:40 AM	#14
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,324 Local Time: 08:29 PM	Yes, ignorance is hardly geographical And I highly doubt that every member of that church supported that. Religious people can think for themselves and even possess intelligence.