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Former Governor Jesse Ventura: WTC Collapse A Controlled Demolition

Originally NOT a skeptic, Jesse Ventura, after researching various disturbing questions on 911 has come to the conclusion that indeed there were highly questionable facts about that fateful day. This interview was conducted in April of 2008. Now all you anti-conspiracy nuts out in FYM world can pick apart Jesse all you want. Have fun.
 
If it isnt Diana its WTC, if it isnt WTC its the NWO, if it isnt the NWO its the ....
 
... but... but... nine eleven changed EVERYTHING!

Seriously. Gravity isn't linear. There's no way it would take 100 seconds for anything to fall from that height, and 10 seconds or however many it actually took to fall is still a few seconds over the speed of free-fall of an object in a vacuum. I imagine he just wanted to get back in the news.
 
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Is he having a meeting about it with Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen in a secret bunker somewhere? Maybe Rosie will post a really bad haiku about it on her blog :hyper:
 
the thing about it is, sure there is evidence for the idea of a controlled explosion but there is 10 times more evidence for the oppisite.

Also, I really don't think the administration is that cold blooded they would kiss thousands of americans just to go to Iraq and become the most hated nation in the world. It just doesn't seem like that could happen. :shrug:
 
dazzlingamy said:
the thing about it is, sure there is evidence for the idea of a controlled explosion but there is 10 times more evidence for the oppisite.

Also, I really don't think the administration is that cold blooded they would kiss thousands of americans just to go to Iraq and become the most hated nation in the world. It just doesn't seem like that could happen. :shrug:
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What is the "10 times more evidence for the opposite"???

I don't believe it was the whole Bush administration that was involved but rather some very dark elements of the Government. I do believe Dick Cheney knew about what was to happen long before it did. I would never claim to know EXACTLY what happened or EXACTLY who was involved. All I do know is the day it happened my gut feeling was that something fishy was going on...it was just too visually spectacular. Since then all kinds of strange facts have surfaced. If we would like I can name many of them???
 
I have no respect for 9/11 conspiracy nuts. They are one of the few, if not the only people that I have ZERO respect for.
 
Harry Vest said:
What is the "10 times more evidence for the opposite"???

I don't believe it was the whole Bush administration that was involved but rather some very dark elements of the Government. I do believe Dick Cheney knew about what was to happen long before it did. I would never claim to know EXACTLY what happened or EXACTLY who was involved. All I do know is the day it happened my gut feeling was that something fishy was going on...it was just too visually spectacular. Since then all kinds of strange facts have surfaced. If we would like I can name many of them???
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Too visually spectacular? What do you think a flying bomb looks like? Why is it so hard to see the actual conspiracy committed by a small group of deeply devout religious believers? Do you really think that any secret cabal that surrounds Bush would be able to function without leaks and mistakes?

Strange facts pop up around strange websites without adequate citation or review, they get taken up as folk knowledge within a community and become assumed facts (Israel warned Jews not to go into the WTC that day etc), genuine skepticism demands a critical eye towards information that supports your contentions and in the case of some vast 9.11 conspiracy there is a lot of that out there.

I don't think that secret groups have an elaborate plan that systematically causes any and all perceived ill in the world, I think that people generally make mistakes and cover their mistakes up - poorly, that things like the Iraq War are perceived to be in the national interest in the long term regardless of which party is in office and that you don't need to invent unfounded puppeteers to explain things you disagree with.
 
i just realised i wrote kiss instead of kill - see i am a true pacifist! hahaha

well the 10x evidence is like the normal things such as, a huge plane FULL of jet fuel SLAMMED into the side of a tower, and after a while, with a shitload of structual damage and fires and tonnes of fuel pouring all over it, it collapsed. I just don't see any conspiracy in that? :shrug:
 
The biggest conspiracy is that it's called 9/11, when most of the world refers to dates as dd/mm/yyyy, therefore 9/11 is actually 9 November. First it's the missing "u", now it's dates the wrong way..... :grumpy:
 
No-one knows 100% what happened. NO-ONE. Even Dick Cheney doesn't know 100%.

And that's why, to me, saying that you KNOW the officially, mainstream accepted explanation is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth (as A_Wanderer quite correctly acknowledges, the mainstream, officially accepted explanation is a conspiracy theory itself) is as stupid and arrogant as saying that you know it is completely false.
 
2861U2 said:
I have no respect for 9/11 conspiracy nuts. They are one of the few, if not the only people that I have ZERO respect for.
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Go tell it to those 9/11 relations who are 'conspiracy nuts', see what reaction you get.
 
financeguy said:
Go tell it to those 9/11 relations who are 'conspiracy nuts', see what reaction you get.
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exactly, many people who's family were victims question the official story. I do think there needs to be a new investigation to shed some light into what happened. We need to confront these questions and issues that have been lingering. That being said, I'm not 100% convinced of the "inside job" theory.
 
financeguy said:
No-one knows 100% what happened. NO-ONE. Even Dick Cheney doesn't know 100%.

And that's why, to me, saying that you KNOW the officially, mainstream accepted explanation is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth (as A_Wanderer quite correctly acknowledges, the mainstream, officially accepted explanation is a conspiracy theory itself) is as stupid and arrogant as saying that you know it is completely false.
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EXACTLY...It baffles my mind the number of people on FYM that refuse to even consider that there may be some truth to this. I believe they are afraid that it may have some truth to it and therefore refuse to even entertain the thought. It shows a total disrespect to those families that have indeed questioned the official story - not to mention the firefighters that heard explosions, the janitor of WTC William Rodriguez who was in the sub-basement and swears he heard explosions underneath him and was one of the true HERO'S of that day (Please Google "William Rodriguez 911 janitor" for more info) or Dr. Steven Jones who found traces of thermate in the dust samples of both WTC 1, WTC 2 and Building 7!!! And while we're on the topic I beg someone to tell me just how Buliding 7 collapsed and why Larry Silverstein gave the orders to "pull it"??? Please, someone explain that to me.
There is just WAY TOO MANY questions that have not been answered. To NOT BE SKEPTICAL is absolute lunacy and scares me even more than any conspiracy theories. I'm not saying you have to believe there was more than meets the eye but to NEVER even question it scares the living shit out of me. Are people that dulled??? It seems many folks on FYM absolutely refuse to even question events such as 911 or the JFK assasination and there's something seriously wrong with that. People like Melon at least have done research and even if I disagree with his theories I respect him for at least doing his homework instead of just laughing it off. Just read some of the comments from people on this thread and you'll know what I mean. It boggles the mind.
 
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There is just WAY TOO MANY questions that have not been answered. To NOT BE SKEPTICAL is absolute lunacy and scares me even more than any conspiracy theories. I'm not saying you have to believe there was more than meets the eye but to NEVER even question it scares the living shit out of me. Are people that dulled??? It seems many folks on FYM absolutely refuse to even question events such as 911 or the JFK assasination and there's something seriously wrong with that. People like Melon at least have done research and even if I disagree with his theories I respect him for at least doing his homework instead of just laughing it off. Just read some of the comments from people on this thread and you'll know what I mean. It boggles the mind.
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I agree that never questioning anything is the wrong way to walk through life, but one should look at all sides of the story. Basic concepts of gravity and physics would answer most of the questions asked by these conspiracy theorists. I have to wonder if you do look at both sides, you have offered some very weak conspiracies(about this and others). And then using "it was just too visually spectacular" as your reasoning is well um... mind boggling.
 
I am still waiting for you to put up a shred of credible research on the Kennedy Assaination. I repeatedly quoted sources, research in that thread and you had NOTHING.

How am I supposed to take this serious?
 
Harry Vest said:
It seems many folks on FYM absolutely refuse to even question events such as 911 or the JFK assasination and there's something seriously wrong with that. People like Melon at least have done research and even if I disagree with his theories I respect him for at least doing his homework instead of just laughing it off. Just read some of the comments from people on this thread and you'll know what I mean. It boggles the mind.
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Please - lets talk Kennedy Assasination.
 
financeguy said:
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to be more specific. Which questions? Which conspiracy theorists?
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Well just for example 'Building 7' isn't that much of a mystery. A slow fire, the damage done to the builing from the debris, and the way the structure of the building was designed makes the fall fairly easily answerable. Plus I'm not sure if a fall 7 hours later really helps the controlled demolition theory.
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Well just for example 'Building 7' isn't that much of a mystery. A slow fire, the damage done to the builing from the debris, and the way the structure of the building was designed makes the fall fairly easily answerable. Plus I'm not sure if a fall 7 hours later really helps the controlled demolition theory.
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That's utter HOGWASH!!! A building that size does NOT collapse like it did. Watch the footage again and tell me it's not a controlled demolition!!!
 
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