Jesse Jackson = Walking Bag of Shit - Page 2

zonelistener · 03-06-2002, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Peaseblossom:
I'd love to see Colin Powell run... maybe with Libby Dole as his VP.

Wow, if America would have trouble accepting a black president, I would bet they would have even more problems accepting a female vice president. This would be an acceptable ticket for the Democrats, but probably not for the Republicans! I feel the Republicans sent Libby a strong message in 2000 - "Don't even think about, women!"

Oh, the days when woman had a chance - cheers to Mondale for trying - it's too bad we are such a close-minded society.

sulawesigirl4 · 03-06-2002, 04:06 PM

ummm, c'mon, zone...not just a little partisan there are you?

I'm overwhelmed by the number of women running for President or VP under the Democratic ticket. *ahem* riiiight.

Powell and Libby Dole would make a great ticket. Probably won't happen, but hell, I'd vote for them.

zonelistener · 03-06-2002, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
ummm, c'mon, zone...not just a little partisan there are you?

I'm overwhelmed by the number of women running for President or VP under the Democratic ticket. *ahem* riiiight.

Powell and Libby Dole would make a great ticket. Probably won't happen, but hell, I'd vote for them.

Sula buddy, name all the female VP candidates ever....hmmmm, Geraldine Ferraro (Mondale's running mate back in, oh never mind, you weren't here, sorry

). No GOPs there though. How about racially diverse candidates in the last 40 years? Has there been more than one from the Republican party? I'm just saying...

I think Libby Dole is GREAT, and I have a lot of respect for Powell - but I feel Dole has been pushed away by the party - shoo shooed in 2002. And for what, a less-inteligent puppet of the party, dubya.

FizzingWhizzbees · 03-06-2002, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lemonite:
His mouth salivates at any single opportunity to try and paint a picture of Black People being shit upon in this world...

Not wishing to start an argument here, but I don't think anyone needs to paint a picture of Black people being discriminated against. The evidence of that happening is all around us, nobody needs to exaggerate the situation because it's serious enough as it is.

FizzingWhizzbees · 03-06-2002, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by zonelistener:
I feel Dole has been pushed away by the party - shoo shooed in 2002. And for what, a less-inteligent puppet of the party, dubya.

Hey zonelistener, I'm really interested in this - who would you say is behind pushing for Bush to be the Republican candidate in 2000? His father or people who supported him in office? Or other people within the Republican party? Or outside? I'm curious - tell me more! :-)

Lemonite · 03-06-2002, 06:29 PM

Ah.. This will be the hallmark of all liberals in the year 2008 when They unleash Hillary Rodham Clinton to try and jump in on the presidency... I can't imagine of an even greater disaster to strike... Keep an Eye out.

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joyfulgirl · 03-06-2002, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by FizzingWhizzbees:
Not wishing to start an argument here, but I don't think anyone needs to paint a picture of Black people being discriminated against. The evidence of that happening is all around us, nobody needs to exaggerate the situation because it's serious enough as it is.

I'm not a Jesse Jackson fan myself, aside from the aforementioned inspirational speech which I remember vividly and the occasional moment where I think he is telling it like it is, but he has always stood up for all people who have been shat upon, including women, children, gays & lesbians of all races.

I also respect the way he handled the much-publicized affair and baby. You can criticize him for being in that position in the first place, but I'm not going to judge him or anybody for it because I've got my own mistakes to contend with and am in no position to judge anyone. All I know is if you're a politician who has an affair and a baby from that affair, and it comes to light, that's the way to handle it. I doubt many politicians would have the courage to be so honest and direct about it.

zonelistener · 03-06-2002, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by FizzingWhizzbees:
Hey zonelistener, I'm really interested in this - who would you say is behind pushing for Bush to be the Republican candidate in 2000? His father or people who supported him in office? Or other people within the Republican party? Or outside? I'm curious - tell me more! :-)

Be honest with you - I couldn't put a name to it, but, if you look at Bush, he would fit the part for what the GOP needed: Popular in his position (gov. of Texas), name recognition (daddy), money, a good puppet (not knowing much about Int'l policy),attractive to the eye (for the most part - ain't no Ronny Reagan though

), popular within the party (old boys network, as with BOTH parties). It just seems perfect. They got what they needed - they beat Gore. Make sense?

speedracer · 03-07-2002, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl:

I also respect the way he handled the much-publicized affair and baby. You can criticize him for being in that position in the first place, but I'm not going to judge him or anybody for it because I've got my own mistakes to contend with and am in no position to judge anyone. All I know is if you're a politician who has an affair and a baby from that affair, and it comes to light, that's the way to handle it. I doubt many politicians would have the courage to be so honest and direct about it.

Except that unwanted pregnancies are a *huge* problem in the black community (as well as adultery being a pretty serious sin according to any reasonable strain of Christianity). Charles Barkley lambasted the Reverend for this transgression in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated.

joyfulgirl · 03-07-2002, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by speedracer:
Except that unwanted pregnancies are a *huge* problem in the black community (as well as adultery being a pretty serious sin according to any reasonable strain of Christianity). Charles Barkley lambasted the Reverend for this transgression in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated.

As I said, you can criticize him if you want, but he handled the situation admirably in my opinion. He is a man, not a God. He fucked up badly, he owned it and did the right thing. And Charles Barkley better make sure his own slate is clean before he goes lambasting anybody.

"Every Saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

Spiral_Staircase · 03-07-2002, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by FizzingWhizzbees:
Not wishing to start an argument here, but I don't think anyone needs to paint a picture of Black people being discriminated against. The evidence of that happening is all around us, nobody needs to exaggerate the situation because it's serious enough as it is.

EXACTLY!! Which is why the Rev's exaggerations bother me so much!

U2Bama · 04-03-2002, 10:52 PM

"Reverend" Jackson refused to take a stand against Sudan's slave system because he feared such a position would be perceived as "Anti-Arab."

speedracer · 04-04-2002, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl:
As I said, you can criticize him if you want, but he handled the situation admirably in my opinion. He is a man, not a God. He fucked up badly, he owned it and did the right thing.

That's like commending someone for calling the fire department after he's set fire to a building.

joyfulgirl · 04-04-2002, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by speedracer:
That's like commending someone for calling the fire department after he's set fire to a building.

um, yeah, it's just exactly like that.

People make terrible mistakes everyday. It's the human condition. How a person handles their mistakes to me is often, though not always, a greater reflection of their true character than their mistakes are. He did the right thing publicly, in my opinion, and the rest is between him, his family, the other woman and child, and God.

new orleans · 04-05-2002, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Lemonite:
Hahaha.. AH yes, I had my egg timer set until you would chime in on this thread..

You seem to have missed the point by trying to drop a question to negate my statement, What I am saying is that Jesse Jackson is a Manufacturer of Negative White/Black Relations, He lives for it, His mouth salivates at any single opportunity to try and paint a picture of Black People being shit upon in this world...

For example, take the Latest Notre Dame Head Coaching Decision.. He goes and places a call to our AD saying it would be a 'good statement' for ND to hire Willingham.. Not for any reason that he may in fact be a competent head coach, or that he has experience coaching a similarly academic oriented school, But for the sole reason that It would be a boost for the Black Morale in the College Coaching Department.. He made it seem that blacks were getting 'brushed' over in coaching selections on purpose.. not because maybe they weren't the best for the job..

The last thing Jesse Jackson wants is for Black Men/women to start to try and improve themselves, To Succeed.. Those are his mortal enemies, Believe it or not.. Successful Blacks.

What a heartless man.

You hit the nail on the head Lemonite. The one thing Jesse does not want to see is the black race becoming self sufficent. If that would happen then who would need Jesse. Until blacks start seeing through their so called leaders like Jesse they will never climb out of the hole they say they are in. Jesse does whatever he can to keep the black race down. If he were white he'd already be in jail. Well maybe not look at Hillary and Bill. He should have been audited by the IRS long ago, but the IRS is scared. This so called man is the worse kind of piece of shit. He constantly screws his on people over as he gets richer.
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new orleans · 04-05-2002, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl:

I'm not a Jesse Jackson fan myself, aside from the aforementioned inspirational speech which I remember vividly and the occasional moment where I think he is telling it like it is, but he has always stood up for all people who have been shat upon, including women, children, gays & lesbians of all races.

I also respect the way he handled the much-publicized affair and baby. You can criticize him for being in that position in the first place, but I'm not going to judge him or anybody for it because I've got my own mistakes to contend with and am in no position to judge anyone. All I know is if you're a politician who has an affair and a baby from that affair, and it comes to light, that's the way to handle it. I doubt many politicians would have the courage to be so honest and direct about it.

I think I saw your picture in Webster's Dictionary next to the word (Most) Gullible

new orleans · 04-05-2002, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl:
As I said, you can criticize him if you want, but he handled the situation admirably in my opinion. He is a man, not a God. He fucked up badly, he owned it and did the right thing. And Charles Barkley better make sure his own slate is clean before he goes lambasting anybody.

"Every Saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

Handled it well. After he got caught.

joyfulgirl · 04-05-2002, 01:22 PM

Interesting how I'm being criticized and called gullible for practicing understanding. Didn't you just say over in the Christian survey thread something about "judge not lest ye be judged?" But that wouldn't apply to Rev. Jackson, I suppose. Or perhaps I lack understanding of the meaning of that principle.

[This message has been edited by joyfulgirl (edited 04-05-2002).]

new orleans · 04-05-2002, 04:08 PM

You are right, it doesn't apply to go old Jesse.

chain · 04-05-2002, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by new orleans:
You are right, it doesn't apply to go old Jesse.

I suggest you put some sunblock on your neck.

chain

03-06-2002, 04:06 PM	#22
sulawesigirl4 Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,415 Local Time: 12:55 AM	ummm, c'mon, zone...not just a little partisan there are you? I'm overwhelmed by the number of women running for President or VP under the Democratic ticket. ahem riiiight. Powell and Libby Dole would make a great ticket. Probably won't happen, but hell, I'd vote for them. __________________

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03-06-2002, 06:29 PM	#26
Lemonite I'm a chauvinist leprechaun Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Notre Dame, IN, 46556 Posts: 1,072 Local Time: 05:55 AM	Ah.. This will be the hallmark of all liberals in the year 2008 when They unleash Hillary Rodham Clinton to try and jump in on the presidency... I can't imagine of an even greater disaster to strike... Keep an Eye out. L.Unplugged

04-03-2002, 10:52 PM	#32
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 12:55 AM	"Reverend" Jackson refused to take a stand against Sudan's slave system because he feared such a position would be perceived as "Anti-Arab."

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joyfulgirl Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 16,683 Local Time: 10:55 PM	Interesting how I'm being criticized and called gullible for practicing understanding. Didn't you just say over in the Christian survey thread something about "judge not lest ye be judged?" But that wouldn't apply to Rev. Jackson, I suppose. Or perhaps I lack understanding of the meaning of that principle. [This message has been edited by joyfulgirl (edited 04-05-2002).]

04-05-2002, 04:08 PM	#39
new orleans The Fly Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kenner, LA, USA Posts: 67 Local Time: 05:55 AM	You are right, it doesn't apply to go old Jesse.