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Old 10-16-2001, 06:13 PM   #1
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I've just heard...

By mistake (Allah protect us from your mistakes) the Red Cross in Kabul has just been bombed...

I better remain silent...

Love and peace on earth!

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Old 10-16-2001, 06:43 PM   #2
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By mistake (Allah protect us from your mistakes) the Red Cross in Kabul has just been bombed...
I better remain silent...
Love and peace on earth!
Good grief! No one was killed in this incident. It was an accident. Show me one war in which accidents don't occur, and I'll eat my hat. Patti, you live in a dream world; where no one fights, and no one has to go to war. I have of coursed noticed that you haven't come up with a viable alternative to war.
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By mistake (Allah protect us from your mistakes) the Red Cross in Kabul has just been bombed...

I better remain silent...

Love and peace on earth!

I wish we all, could learn to sing, in perfect harmony! I like to buy, the World a Coke, and keep it company!

Lets just all buy lighters, click are heals together three times, and it will all go away!




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Old 10-16-2001, 08:31 PM   #4
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Noone died U2s80s, but a 40% of their supplies are lost...someone will need it, and could die ´cos that is not going to be there...

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Old 10-16-2001, 09:00 PM   #5
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Good grief! No one was killed in this incident. It was an accident. Show me one war in which accidents don't occur, and I'll eat my hat. Patti, you live in a dream world; where no one fights, and no one has to go to war. I have of coursed noticed that you haven't come up with a viable alternative to war. [/B][/QUOTE]


"Good grief, no one was killed.. it was an accident". Yes, 40% of their medical stock is gone and good grief, no one was killed in the bombinb. Shall I remind you that winter is comming and that thousands of hundreds of civilians will probably die. There's no excuse for that, even not the usual "well, the Talibans would do nothing anyways".

"Patti, you live in a dreamworld" - Yes she does, and I do as well, I know. We're both against war, so that makes us dreamers or rebels, depends on wich side your on. But I rather live in my dreams than in the world this planet offers. Dreamers change the world, not conservative war-approvers. Oh, war changes the world only for a little while.

"No alternative to war". - Never heard of diplomacy ? Or the United Nations ? Or changing your political foreing policy ? Or the UNICEF ? Or Amnesty ? "But these are terrorists who do not care of those organisations and who are religious fanatics". - Yes... so what ? Bring it to a non-corrupted and non-controlled-by-the-USA-and-money United Nations... yes, it means major changes, while war is the most easy way.


I'll say a little cliché here : "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one".


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"Ich bin der letzte Mann. Gegen alle verteidige mich ich. Ich kapituliere nicht. "
"Sono l' ultimo uomo. Contro tutti mi difenderò. Non capitulate."

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And the battle just begun
there's many lost
but tell me: who was won??????

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And the battle just begun
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but tell me: who was won??????

The weapon sellers and there producers.

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The weapon sellers and there producers.

And the Media.
And the drug companies.


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sick of hearing again and again, that there's not gonna be, peace on earth.
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And the Media.
And the drug companies.

Uh, yeah, so this is where Noam Chomsky comes in and says that drug companies lobbied the US to start bombing Afghanistan in order to provoke bioterrorist attacks and thus provide a market for all those antibiotics and vaccines.
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WOW, i did not know that.

Noam Chomsky said no such thing. I was just making a flippant remark in response to the equally flippant remark that "the media and the drug companies are the winners in this war."

We could debate the merits of Chomsky's work, but that's a topic for another thread...
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shit happens...

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Noam Chomsky said no such thing. I was just making a flippant remark in response to the equally flippant remark that "the media and the drug companies are the winners in this war."

We could debate the merits of Chomsky's work, but that's a topic for another thread...
but do you know a website where i can read more about this topic ( chomsky`s words ) ?

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but do you know a website where i can read more about this topic ( chomsky`s words ) ?

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http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/index.cfm

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Thanks, i think i will order the double cd
I could not find articles newer than 1999.
I will look again tommorrow .

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Uh, yeah, so this is where Noam Chomsky comes in and says that drug companies lobbied the US to start bombing Afghanistan in order to provoke bioterrorist attacks and thus provide a market for all those antibiotics and vaccines.
WOW, i did not know that.

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How dear anyone insults another person cuz they are anti- war. I'm sorry, but i don't live in a dream world, but I have watched and seen these terrible acts of war..... Very sinful.... These sins of war can be avoided.... I don't have the answers cuz i don't have total knowledge of all the crap that is going on... But i can say this, killig any innocent person is a crime, whether it is in a war or whatever, its a crime...... So, 80's guy, whatever ur name is, try not to get burned up at people who are against killing innocent lives....
HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
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How dear anyone insults another person cuz they are anti- war. I'm sorry, but i don't live in a dream world, but I have watched and seen these terrible acts of war..... Very sinful.... These sins of war can be avoided.... I don't have the answers cuz i don't have total knowledge of all the crap that is going on... But i can say this, killig any innocent person is a crime, whether it is in a war or whatever, its a crime...... So, 80's guy, whatever ur name is, try not to get burned up at people who are against killing innocent lives....
HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
I can't speak for 80'sU2isBest, but I think he's not entirely burned by antiwar sentiment - but I think he sees this thread may evolve (like other threads) into a US bashing session. It all starts when the US' motives are scrutinized (not a bad thing, it brings some sort of balance as well as a global viewpoint) and when someone speaks up for or against it, it turns into another US bashing thread and eventually, things come to personal blows. I've seen it all too much in recent weeks...

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Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm thinking. I appreciate your defense of me. For people to think I am a war-monger is wrong wrong wrong. Unjustified war is wrong. But this war is right. And also, I am sick of people bashing America. I'm not talking about people who just disagree with America policy, but people like Holy John, Patti Jones, and BLOCK, who bad mouth America every chance they get.[/B][/QUOTE]

Hear Hear! Well spoken and completely precise.

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HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
I didn't insult anyone. I said that Patti lives in a dream world. And that was being kind. Ever since Patti started posting, it's been one anti-Ameerican post after another. And I find it funny that you jumped on me for saying someone lives in a dream world, when you replied to the post in which BLOCK said to us all F*** YOU EVERYONE that he had some good points and never mentioned that! You wanna talk about innocent lives? How about 6000 of them at one time??!! And these 6000 weren't killed accidentally. They were the targets. So you can talk to me all you want about how war is never justified, but it's not true. War in this case, as it was in World War 2, is COMPLETELY justified, In fact, it's the only viable solution. These radicals (the terrorists) cannot be reasoned with. They show that by their willingness to kill themselves in order to kill thousands more. But we tried to reason with the Taliban, but they wouldn't accept it. Now we are doing the only thing left to do. Do you expect us to be held captive by killer radicals (the terrorists)? Do you think that arresting and killing bin Laden alone will stop anything?
No, it will not. It will just make them madder. It is therefore incumbent upon us to annihilate every terrorist group.


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